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Discussions about AChat => Share your creative ideas => Topic started by: NewGurl on December 18, 2011, 01:03:34 AM
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I realize I am new here. I just want to point out that it our obligation as PREM members to assist FREE users and convince them to become PREM members. This will increase the revenue to AChat and thereby make it more feasible to add the options we all want.
I myself take a couple of free users into a room every time I log on. I show them a good time and list the benefits of being a PREM user. I realize that some FREE users cannot afford to go PREM, but I still try. I know of some that have said they are going PREM and I know for a fact about 1.
I know 1 isnt much, but if we all get one new member a month. AChat will grow and we will all prosper.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings.
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I have been a premium user on here for 2 years and to be honest, prem or free, a lot of girls here are bitches. 90% of them demand A$ to room. I'm already paying $50/yr for this place, so I am in no mood to double pay. If you want to help free users, more power to you, but I'm at the point where I will NOT be renewing my membership in March when it expires.
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I can see Apollo's point of view here and I do find it strange that girls charge for their "services". perhaps we should have a new character H (for hooker) lol!
I don't charge and neither does my o/s wife we both encourage Free users to upgrade for the extra benefits, but this week I did come across a college student even younger than myself, she had only just turned 18, and had not enough money to upgrade, let alone fill her wardrobe.
She had been advised, and I'm expressing no opinion here, to sell photographs of herself on here to raise $A to buy things and upgrade to premium. I had a long talk to her and she promised me that there would be no facial pictures. I'm not even going to say what country she comes from, but if she or her misstress is reading this they will know who she is.
Is what she's doing right?
From Apollo's point of view it might be as she wasn't charging to room and he wouldn't have to gift her to talk to her.
Maybe there should be a topic on this if there hasn't been already
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well imo gifting should be changed or removed, but at least with pictures it doesnt fuck up the game as much
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Newgurl,
I have shared my room with non-prems and I have explained what benefits a premium membership would have. But I don't see myself as an antive promoter when in the game. I thick the dev-team has the responsibility to promote the game and make it attractive to become a premium member.
In the end we all benefit, agreed that a bigger group of prems generates more income which might mean an expansion of the dev team with more and quicker developed releases. Though I wonder if all the extra generated income would be invested in the game or would end up on someone's bankaccount without noticable changes in the game.
imo Apollo has a point, about 90% of non-prem users are rude, quick and click through the poses. There isn't much decency around which is a huge shame. For me, a blue start means nothing. It doesn't change the person behind the avatar. So if the person is nice, can hold a conversation and writes in full sentences, she is more than welcome to look me up.
If there are members who actively promote premium meberships, they should be rewarded byt the dev-team..
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I have been a premium user on here for 2 years and to be honest, prem or free, a lot of girls here are bitches. 90% of them demand A$ to room. I'm already paying $50/yr for this place, so I am in no mood to double pay. If you want to help free users, more power to you, but I'm at the point where I will NOT be renewing my membership in March when it expires.
Maybe you are not lucky and fuck alway the sames . Me i'm here from 6 months (oww time run fast) and i had never pay for fuck , nor be payd . try to change your selection settings.
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Rukya sweetie. One (and maybe the only) advantage of being a lesbian on here is that the users who would be hitting up Apollo for gifts will room with us for free.
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Give newbye some assist musn't be an obligation, but something a prem users wanna do if it's in the mood to show them how thinks work in room. The real problem is this: most of the free users just don't care to chat (to many cold invite!) or add some personally touch on the poses desciving they feeling or adding some description, most just wan to fuck selecting poses.
Personally, in this 3 month i had found some nice partner in free users too, so i can consider me lucky, but had found some Prem who really don't care about others peoples feeling.
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Like Tight, If they can hold and maintain a conversation level which would match my style I have no problems with new users. However the past few months I have been on for such a limited time, promoting the game seems irrelevant to my admittedly selfish needs of meeting my own gratification with proven partners.
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I have been a premium user on here for 2 years and to be honest, prem or free, a lot of girls here are bitches. 90% of them demand A$ to room. I'm already paying $50/yr for this place, so I am in no mood to double pay. If you want to help free users, more power to you, but I'm at the point where I will NOT be renewing my membership in March when it expires.
I empathize with your feelings. I started out listing on my profile, "No prostitutes or manipulators" and got comments that somehow I was the rude one. Personally, I always try to be pleasant and sensitive to new people I meet on here, regardless of whether they are "Free" or "premium".
I don't like the attitudes of prostitutes or users in real life, so there is nothing in this game that would make me act any different in a fantasy world.
In terms of finance, I did gift one lover a month's "premium" membership with the goal that we would both enjoy cumming together. It wasn't a charity gesture, and my goals were selfish so I wouldn't represent that it was for the greater goal of growing AChat. In contrast, I believe financial decisions are entirely personal, and I feel no "obligation" to support free members.
If I piss off a few people on this game, it is probably for the same reasons I would piss off the same personalities in real life. :o ;D ;D
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Rukya sweetie. One (and maybe the only) advantage of being a lesbian on here is that the users who would be hitting up Apollo for gifts will room with us for free.
You are correct. I am always willing to room with a lesbian (or two) for free. ;) :-X :-*
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its actually really bad, the amount of legit girls that hetero males can hit up is in the single digits at any given time. usually about 3 or 4
a giant chunk of the females and almost all of the shemales ask for gifts, a large portion dont speak english (thats not really an issue that can be resolved) and then theres just an abnormally large amount of lesbians in the game (I don't buy it one bit, its guys on female and shemale avatars, lesbians dont make up 80% of the female population in the world)
girls dont feel a lot of this pressure because most of the girls asking for gifts are listed as homo or bi demanding gifts only from males...
so right now the only way to get by in this game is to friend the 2 or 3 girls who are actually on this game to play and try to log in at the same times
so i bet a lot of men are gifting, and this game is getting more and more savage, pretty soon I might just stop checking in altogether
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its actually really bad, the amount of legit girls that hetero males can hit up is in the single digits at any given time. usually about 3 or 4
a giant chunk of the females and almost all of the shemales ask for gifts, a large portion dont speak english (thats not really an issue that can be resolved) and then theres just an abnormally large amount of lesbians in the game (I don't buy it one bit, its guys on female and shemale avatars, lesbians dont make up 80% of the female population in the world)
girls dont feel a lot of this pressure because most of the girls asking for gifts are listed as homo or bi demanding gifts only from males...
so right now the only way to get by in this game is to friend the 2 or 3 girls who are actually on this game to play and try to log in at the same times
so i bet a lot of men are gifting, and this game is getting more and more savage, pretty soon I might just stop checking in altogether
I was wondering why you were so frustrated. That clears it up a great deal.
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yeah, and its not like im just striking out, I strike out sometimes, but this game is like going into a bar where 80% of the girls are escorts...
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Heck, just today I had a shemale hit me up for gifts until I finally flat out asked her to stop.
It's just unpleasant.
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well maybe they'll listen if i post a thread about how much i hate hookers every day
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I thank all of you in responding to this topic. There are a lot of comments that I hadn't thought of. Maybe it should be that all free users could only invite each other. Prems could invite anyone. That would greatly cut down on the cold invites. I realize that there will always be assholes on here, but I feel that the good users greatly out weigh the bad ones, they just stand out more.
You are right about 1 thing there are too many charging on here to even talk to them. If they want to be hookers, there should be a orientation for Hookers as already suggested. And if you get tired of the cold invites, there is always the ignore button.
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I LIKE the frees only being able to invite other frees.
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mmm, this one is a little extreme solution, but i can understand the reason there are behind it. as i said before, i see cold invite by premium too, so be free or not isn't the reason they send them.
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Agreed Hentai, this is more to thin the amounts of Cold Invites.
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Well I happen to be on last night and in a "cold " spell...was looking at some of the male banners and found a couple of males with pages of lovers and friends. So free male users having successful free can be found. There are a few others I know of who have been here for quite a while. So honestly, if you are going to do play with the freebies, please too take note at some point they are not supporting the site, and are more of a burden to the others.
Support those who are willing to financially support this site, not the long term moochers.
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For me if the people have a wonderful conversation and I feel like hey I would have fun with this person in the room I would. If it is just showing the new people around, well that depends on my mood. Sometimes i don't mind helping out but there are also times that people who pop up saying i'm new can you show me around i tend to get annoyed. whenever i do any type of game, i always try to figure things out for myself and if i can't, then i would go to ask somebody hey how is this done or how does this work. As for the getting $A i figure if someone wants to that should be up to them for it is their money to spend and should be spent the way they see fit. yes it is nice getting the gifts now and then but i would rather just have fun and the other has fun as well. For the gals though if they want to do it with another gal, the way the game is set up they have to do it with a prem or let me put it this way a prem with the poses. otherwise all they can do is just stand around which in my opinion is boring if you went in the room wanting to use poses. I'm not sure about the shems but if we are trying to promote more poses for FF why can't we have one free pose added so the females can actually do some action and the shems as well if they don't have that free pose to do any action. I know for me i'm open to most anything and have done a little bit with FF but if a non prem approaches me for being a girl i would have no desire to help cause i don't have the poses for that. anyway those are my ramblings lol
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Please forgive the question if everyone already knows this, but is it possible to "term limit" free users? The overall discussion appears to revolve around growing AChat by encouraging "free" users" to become "premium". At the same time, several people point out the value of not subsidizing "moochers", who consume resources without contributing.
Therefore, is it possible to limit "free" membership to a reasonable timeframe, i.e. one month, then an automatic cancel if people don't convert to paying customers. In order to screen abuse of multiple sign-ups under different names, could the dev team track these by computer I.P. number and cancel chronic abusers?
Since I am not a computer "geek" I don't know if these things can be implemented. However, I am looking for a compromise that provides marketing draw for "free" recruits, which at the same time preserves distribution of resources to players who invest in the game.
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Tracing IP can be done but dunno how if there is a real need in doing this from dev-team. plus, thinking about the internet provider, in italy all the users of one provider have the same IP, so this will mean blocked a big amount of aChat users. so, basically this is a no good option!
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Well neither am I a computer geek, but I thought there were cookied trackers which could be used to monitor accounts.
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Sounds better that it may turn out, i know of at least one Premium on here who I think has 3 Frees under other names. No names as there are other people I would love to start topics on.
Is it possible to have a private chat to a mdoerator about things that disturb one, but may possibly be misconstruing?
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Sounds better that it may turn out, i know of at least one Premium on here who I think has 3 Frees under other names. No names as there are other people I would love to start topics on.
Is it possible to have a private chat to a mdoerator about things that disturb one, but may possibly be misconstruing?
Sounds like a good idea for providing forthright criticism without publicly "airing dirty laundry" or being labeled negative. :)
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I think its subjective whether we have an obligation or not to help the free users.
Most free users that I have encountered either send one message and invite or cold invite. Both of which is annoying. However, those that genuinely ask for help as a first contact I am more inclined to give help.
To be clear with what Apollo said it is true many women on here charge for $A ... however I am one of the ones that don't .. fun is mutual its not an invitation to solicit for pay of some kind. When it comes to gifts on offer I tend to have a question of why they sent it to me.
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As far as limiting terms of Frees. I don't think it will happen, because when it comes to Free versus Premium the carrot seems preferred over the stick. I think you'll see more options for Premiums like cumming versus not since the idea seems to be that Frees still register as users, which will hopefully pull in more users, and not all Frees are moochers, so they probably hope those people will eventually sign up.
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imo there is no obligation to be with ppl you ... just do not like.
So if you cannot have a good chat, good time, common interest, new or premium does not matter, i prefer to avoid.
Obviously, as already posted, i refuse to pay for fun, so those are also excluded. Is that not irrelevant to help a new comer and have to pay her on top ?
But anyone nice, funny, chatty, interesting, i am more than happy to help and advise.
kisses
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I voted No in the poll, but I wanted to clarify my vote. It's not that I do not believe in helping people who are new to the game (came up with the user made quick starts for just that purpose) but I do not feel "obligated". When paying to be here I use my time as I chose.
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Very True Janine. "Obligated" is not my best choice of words. As you said, since we pay we should be able to spend out time as we see fit. What my point is, It would be in our best interests to show free users the benefits of becomeing Prem users. However there will always be some users, free or prem that will abuse the invite and will not talk at all.
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Very True Janine. "Obligated" is not my best choice of words. As you said, since we pay we should be able to spend out time as we see fit. What my point is, It would be in our best interests to show free users the benefits of becomeing Prem users. However there will always be some users, free or prem that will abuse the invite and will not talk at all.
Thats where my point comes through being subjective ... you never know till you are with them if they are going to be that kind and alot of the time (in my experience) it has not been worth it.
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Very True Janine. "Obligated" is not my best choice of words. As you said, since we pay we should be able to spend out time as we see fit. What my point is, It would be in our best interests to show free users the benefits of becomeing Prem users. However there will always be some users, free or prem that will abuse the invite and will not talk at all.
Thats where my point comes through being subjective ... you never know till you are with them if they are going to be that kind and alot of the time (in my experience) it has not been worth it.
True kitten, but I still try, excelt the ones male or female that cold invite, at least talk first.
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for me personally, i have found that most free users are very rude, send the most cold invites, and seriously lack respect.
now, that being said. i have met a few freebies on here that have become friends. if someone knows how to carry on a conversation, show respect, ect. i enjoy chatting with new people. i do agree however that achat should limit the amnt of time a user can remain free. the irritation from cold invites and just plain nasty freebies is ridiculous. and i also know from exp that prem users are for fact more polite and respectful. none of this is important for me as far as rooming with someone. if the chemistry/attraction isnt present, ill be damned if im cybering with any of em. period. to me if i did, i might as well be whoring, as i pay my own way and could care less about a friggin gift.
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for me personally, i have found that most free users are very rude, send the most cold invites, and seriously lack respect.
now, that being said. i have met a few freebies on here that have become friends. if someone knows how to carry on a conversation, show respect, ect. i enjoy chatting with new people. i do agree however that achat should limit the amnt of time a user can remain free. the irritation from cold invites and just plain nasty freebies is ridiculous. and i also know from exp that prem users are for fact more polite and respectful. none of this is important for me as far as rooming with someone. if the chemistry/attraction isnt present, ill be damned if im cybering with any of em. period. to me if i did, i might as well be whoring, as i pay my own way and could care less about a friggin gift.
I do agree with you Fantasy, the reason I started this Post was to see how others thought, I have a lot of good responses and different points of view.
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Thanks to all for your opinions. I appreciate your interest and I now am going to lock this topic.
Thanks again for your Ideas and Opinions!!!!!!
NewGurl