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Discussions about sex => Everything about sex and love => Topic started by: Trekmanalpha on June 06, 2012, 02:30:17 AM
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Just a bit of a statement...
There are a lot of guys here who want to only treat a woman right, like she's a queen to us.
We HATE the abuse, mistreatment, the idea of Rough sex, and the idea of Anal.
None of that is even remotely a wonderful, sensual, romantic, and loving, part of the sexual experience.
It's not worth us creating a group, but at least, you women, please take note. Not all guys are the same, we dont all want to just fuck you, and we dont all want the loose connection of just plain sex. Some of us want more. We want to let you know you matter... and that you actually do mean something to us.
And for all those guys here to just LOVE to mistreat and abuse and rape your women, if I could, I'd jail you all, even though this is just a game.
Those of you guys who like YOUNG women, and encourage the younger players, thats the start of pedefelia. And all you fantasy rapists, this is how the real thing starts in your lives.
Wake up. Yes this is fantasy, but how many here want to act out your fantasy, regardless of how perverted it is? how many of you will?
Just some food for thought.
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trek, of course there are men who really care their partner and that's good, but......i think you are looking at the situation in a so strict point of view: i can't talk for my real experience (all here know how many experience i have :'(), but if you really wanna make your partner happy and have a good bond, listen at her desire is an important point.
you can treat her like a queen, being romantic or buying roses, but if you don't listen at her desire and talk whit her if you don't share them, you will never build a good relationship. there are girls who enjoy and want rough or anal sex (can't deny it!) and if she is asking it to you, what did you gonna do!? refusing it so easly!? a good thing can be to talk of mutual desire before moving deeper in a relatonship, a real one or here on achat, it's the perfect way to know better your partner and understand if she is the right one.
and about young girl.......i can presume you are talking about under age, but teorycally it will be impossible here, so i can say i agree whit you on this, cause i really never had think (or had fantasies) about that and, honestly, i really don't like that.
There can be ton of point of you about your tougths, Trek........and no one can say they are totally right or not. it's all about the relationship you live whit your partner and about what both of you like and dislike, so i can think will gonna collect lot of feeling and experience on this! let's see and wait!
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Well I am glad that Trek offered up his views and a reminder to many women that there are men who play here with such standards. No doubt there are women in search of such, turned off by similar perceptions of dominating play and casual attitudes towards sex.
I don't necessarily agree with your views of the dominating form of RP but the topic is well documented elsewhere.
I would appreciate that comments that follow explore the concept of romantic play...and bar themselves from any attack
HB your comments are directly on, that the truth of building a strong relationship is to set aside ones own attitudes and fully explore a woman's desires. Anal can be done in an erotic sensual form...and often many woman who are resistive to a man "taking" it... secretly find the experience exhilarating and exciting. They will offer it in the heat of passion to those they trust, and feel a deep bond with. Such an offering should never be necessarily dismissed by attitudes,... but rather approached with the same sensuality that has created the binds in the first place.
Some can do without it period... so I applaud you Trek,... there are woman who surrender it never fully enjoying it... just thinking it is a necessity to building stronger bonds.
It is best said that does not need to be the case as Trek has pointed out. There are men out there with traditional honorable codes available for romantic attitudes.
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Thank you Trek, for stating your opinion and I share myself behind you and bear. There are men that come here because they want the most out of a relationshiop with a woman and who are prepared to invest in her.
Though I don't agree with you on the opinion on anal sex, I am fully behind you on the concept of romanticism in an environment as this. In the heat of passion, unexpected things can happen.. But from what I understand when talking to the women here, a lot fot hem complain about the rudeness, how they are aproached and treated and what is expected of them. There are however men that form a counter weight to that kind of behaviour. maybe not so easy to find in the endless stream of cold invites and rude chat requests, but they are there.
It takes to know the partner who you are with, to know what she wants, to be able to meet her desires and make her feel like Queen. Investing time and effort to find out what she likes is always rewarding. Both for her as well as you. And she might discover desires she did not know ezxisted. I know I have discovered sides of myself, I never knew or dreamt of having. Romantic play is for me the way to interact.
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Another worthwile topic :) Congrats Trek.
As my friends before I also don't agree with everything you said. But that doesn't mean you're wrong. You just have to accept that some men and women like other things then you do. It's ok, as both like the same!
I totally agree with sex with young people and treating women in a bad way, doing things they don't want and like... but I know there are women here, which like to be beaten, to get rough sex, having the fantasy of being raped... so HB is completely right when he says, listen to her desires.
Even if some "just" wanna play it's ok. As long as both agree...
At least you hit the point when you say that there are many men who want to treat a woman right. Perhaps more girls would stay if they read this topic? I don't know, but I believe....
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Just a bit of a statement...
There are a lot of guys here who want to only treat a woman right, like she's a queen to us.
We HATE the abuse, mistreatment, the idea of Rough sex, and the idea of Anal.
None of that is even remotely a wonderful, sensual, romantic, and loving, part of the sexual experience.
It's not worth us creating a group, but at least, you women, please take note. Not all guys are the same, we dont all want to just fuck you, and we dont all want the loose connection of just plain sex. Some of us want more. We want to let you know you matter... and that you actually do mean something to us.
And for all those guys here to just LOVE to mistreat and abuse and rape your women, if I could, I'd jail you all, even though this is just a game.
Those of you guys who like YOUNG women, and encourage the younger players, thats the start of pedefelia. And all you fantasy rapists, this is how the real thing starts in your lives.
Wake up. Yes this is fantasy, but how many here want to act out your fantasy, regardless of how perverted it is? how many of you will?
Just some food for thought.
I agree completely with Lover. The key to a rewarding experience is that it is consensual between adults. Also "treating a woman right" or ANY partner right involves responding to their desires and needs, EVEN though they may be a little more adventuresome than mine (or yours) personally.
Since no one else has been specific about what they disagree with, allow me the following concerns with your post. These are offered as simply my opinion and observations, and with due respect to Bear's request to avoid "attacks". While I agree 100% with your encouragement of "Romanticism" and sensitivity to personal dignity, the tone of your remarks undercuts your goal. For me, the tone dances dangerously close to moral condescension and censorship of others' behavior. The use of "woman" to the exclusion of male and shemale sets the stage for this. Labeling anal as an unacceptable orifice continues along this line of thinking, and finally to invoke the implication of pedophilia for sex between people of disparate ages is at best misleading.
For those of us deal with this psychiatric disorder professionally, I feel compelled to clarify that "liking sex with YOUNG women" as you put it, is NOT an antecedent to pedophilia. The term "woman" presupposes an adult and pedophilia is the intense sexual urge, sometimes uncontrollable, for an adult to have sex with a CHILD, most often a prepubertal child.
Now before you misinterpret my remarks as an attack, please do not be offended. I respect your opinion as it applies to yourself and your partners. It is simply my perception from the tone of your post that you do not return this similar tolerance to others with behaviors divergent from yours. In addition, I am compelled clarify sexual myth regarding pedophilia vs "normal" behavior, albeit even when it is two standard deviations from the mean.
Thank you for your contribution to the Forum. :)
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What does anyone know of
AChat Black Studs?
Is it just a sad "club" of "Black" men with 10" wieners (yea right!) or have we had a similar situation to this before of "procurement"?
On Topic, I like to be spanked and dominated. Not exclusively, it depends upon the partner, if they don't want to then we can make love without it, sex can be fun without S & M or even anal and where there is any kind of "rough" sex, it has to be consensual, even on a fantasy site. There is always the "exit room" button if you aren't happy with your situation and I really believe that people should be encouraged to express their dislikes/disapproval, it keeps the site safer and more enjoyable!
Thanks for letting me share.
xx
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Yes a bit off topic but to answer your question you have summed it up blu'... a group catering to creating a harem of woman fixated on the Big Black Cock (BBC) fantasy/fetish ...
I look at it as a selective family grouping... fixated as you say on procurement of dedicated sexual servants. There have been families created here before... not along this line though.
Very tactfully pointed out West69, and I think appropriate since Trekmanalpha did pose that question in his statement. TY
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This seems to be summed up well. already.. Women, like men.. are all different and have their preferences in men and sexual partners. There are those looking for a daddy figure, someone who dominates them and yes even women who get highly aroused from abuse and more vulgar or even down right brutal acts. One has to be comfortable in the choices they make, all personalities are different as well as preferences.
Saying the men that abuse the women is wrong, well that may be our perception but their preference for arousal. It's not my cup of tea and I would have to stray way out of my comfort level to perform that for a partner or lover. Would I? Yes if it pleased and pleasured her.. the encounter doesn't have to be entirely for what she wants as long as she's a giver too and wants to fill the desires I'd need for pleasure..
Just my .02
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Yes we do know that not all guys are the same. But when we are speaking of our negative experiences it is important to note we have had them and it makes us just a little more cautious when dealing with someone new. Something that still happens regardless of sex.
I try when talking with someone new not to judge them by my past negative experiences but that doesn't mean the thought doesn't past through my head.
From my perspective it is more a minority that wrecks it for a majority. Much like racial stereotypes people can be very much sticking on the whole idea of the fact that people are that way but that is not true. Its only true to the point where are a stereotype is confirmed by the person.
It is not about just treating one person right but about treating all people right with respect they are all due (note how I have not said earned but due. This is because respect should be given at the start not gradually given like a miser)
All mis-treaters get what they deserve in the end and its usually the friend that is the good person that brings us back out of the depression related to it.
Its always important to treat the other person as a person first (that is how you should be treated) after all the thing that will happen will happen. So do not force it or try to force it. If it has merit it will occur.
Thank you Treky and everyone for the posts ... its always good to have another perspective on a conversation/issue to work from.
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Hello all kind peoples of the DreamWorld's Forum.
Well ... some good men exists ... really ???
I think, of course !!! In fact my experience here in the Dreamworld ( that is not so long I may agree ) is not about the gender that make or not
a kind person.
Some men are nice ( or not ) , some women are rudes ( or not ) , and Shemen can be both ...
It is related to the gender ? or it is related to the cultural education, the reason why they are here, the relations they expected ..?
I feel that we are all very differents, more maybe than the usual panel of differences we may have during our life, because users here comes from all around the world, sometime hide their true self, or express bondless their lusts and frustration.
As many user here I mainly speack about respect for the living people that is behind the Avatar.
It is an hard task to meet for we have sometime such huge different cultures ans wishes. And sometime it lead to rudeness.
For me it is not also related for what we seek in the Dreamworld, some may look for gentle virtual sex, some for hard and regardless fuck, some want pictures or contacts on Skype ... MSN ... Some want to find a mate for real live ...
Would I Enjoy be treated like a Queen Mister Trekmanalpha : No, for that is very not what I need and seek for coming here.
Some peoples may insult me, calling me "Creature" for I am Transgender : Yes it did happen. Is it rudeness ... for sure it's a pity... but it is also the price, I think for having such differents peoples in the same world.
Also, we, peoples of the forum, are, I think, more involved into the Dreamworld's life and improving. So I think it is much more a part of our life than the Standard Free User that make no difference between a person and Robot Girl ( or Robot Boy I am not sexist :P ) who just enter the Dreamworld for the "game fun" and don't even think some real other persons ( with feelings, pains and scars ) are interracting.
So for us ( peoples of the forum ) the ourselves we put into the Dreamworld may be very different, very intimate, and ... very painfull when treated without regards and with rudeness.
So how we feel may be different from those who makes feel it.
I have sadly no solution.
But gladly the Dreamworld have two options the Realworld may never have : "The Ignore" button of the Chat and the "Exit Room" button of the Room.
After all this offer us the possibility to stop the rudeness quickly.
I know than when hurt is done , it is too late. But also I agree Miss kittenlepurr that Friends may easely cure our sadness about been treated rudely.
Anyway, sadly enough I think also that the majority of peoples may be or become rude. And that is the minority who are kinds.
For example, I think it is hard for free users or new comers to make nice contacts and that been rejected oftenly, they may feel angry and leaded to become rude because of this.
As Miss kittenlepurr I try not to judge anyone before, no matter the gender, no matter the Free or Premium. But I may say also that sometime it is hard. ( and so, when I feel I may no more, I usually switch to my second personality's Avatar to clean my mind about those pains ) .
Sorry if I bored you
Please accept my best humbly regards
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honestly I feel a little insulted by your post chien_lubrik... mainly because it feels like your belittling mine and a few other peoples opinions.
I may be assuming tone here though. It just seems like it when you read your post a few times.
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Kitty. eve said
I know than when hurt is done , it is too late. But also I agree Miss kittenlepurr that Friends may easely cure our sadness about been treated rudely.
Anyway, sadly enough I think also that the majority of peoples may be or become rude. And that is the minority who are kinds.
For example, I think it is hard for free users or new comers to make nice contacts and that been rejected oftenly, they may feel angry and leaded to become rude because of this.
As Miss kittenlepurr I try not to judge anyone before, no matter the gender, no matter the Free or Premium. But I may say also that sometime it is hard. ( and so, when I feel I may no more, I usually switch to my second personality's Avatar to clean my mind about those pains ) .
I can't see she wants to insult you and as far as I know her this was never her intention.
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like I said i may be mis-reading tone but it seemed like eve was insulting me when i first read what she wrote.
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Hi peeps,
I'm normaly a good guy, but i get the most out of this dreamworld, if i can make the girl feel at home, if it's in her room or mine the lady always deserve's the atention she need.
Not that i'm a sub, but i like to listen and learn what she wants, and suggest my own kind of play as wel, so we normaly would be equels in a room. I don't mind giving a girl some rough sex if she want or good spanking from time to time, as some members here may know.
But if the lady's steps into a room with me because she only wants to chat, and dance and kiss for a while, i'm also in for that. Don't mind me though that i would let my hands wonder over your body to explore it while we dance or hug ;)
I have been with other man in mmf action who treated the lady like she was some piece of shit and a fucking whore, i don't like that, especially when i noticed the girl did not like that kind of behaviour, so i told the man to give the lady the respect she deserves, he got angry about that and said all girls on here are fucking whore's, so the girl and i left the room and 1 on 1 to talk about the experience. She told me she was crying a little bit, and i just hold her and talk to her. We are all people with feelings you know.
And that's what i have to say about this subject. I was gonna leave a short message, turns out the subject did something to me and i leave my longest post yet.
btw, the girl and i do still see each other from time to time :)
mrsexlover
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Hi again,
I have met MSL and what he says is true.
As readers of this forum will know, I am a hot little flirt and into being spanked & dominated, but I hate and campaign against the scenario outlined by MSL where the "other person" be it male or female treats their partner "like a piece of shit and a fucking whore"
Of course there are players who feel like this. I can usualy spot them long before we ever get to rooming and I'll never ever play with them although I may give them a piece of my mind!
What I do with my partners is consensual and if I allow myself to be dominated it is because I allow it and because I trust the person doing it to respect me.
I am friends with a couple of subs on here who delight in being abused in different ways, one will do really painful or degrading things to themselves in rl, the other loves being "pimped out" on here by their Mistress. Neither of them would puit up with the sort of very real dangerous abuse described by MSL and above.
Unfortunately Trekmanalpha is unable to distinguish between consensual domination and very real abuse and feels that all people who like to be spanked or dominated must like to be treated as worthless whores, which actually puts him in the same category as the assholes who do think and act like that.
I have been friends with Trekmanalpha for months, but since the issue with Sharon, he has become very blinkered and introverted and I am very sad to say that we are no longer friends and he was quite unkind to me with what he said.
I regret this very much, but I have never changed in the time we have known each other and I would, for him, leave aside my perversions to give him the loving he says he craves.
Apologies for the length of the post, I'm doing my dissertation atm and I'm getting used to writing for ever!
xx
Blue
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Kitten, as i had noticed talking whit Eve sometimes, it is a little hard for her to express clearly her toughs, probably for her bad experience. I can tell you she is really nice and she have a big heart, so, please, have a little patience whit her, you all.....
Eve, who had read all your old post, know how was your real experience in the past and how they hurt you, so i can understand you are not looking for pictures or contacts on Skype ... MSN ... find a mate for real live ...you need time to win against your past, the ugly think happend to you and i hope, as i had say to you, you can find someone who will help you in doing this. i see you like a little scarried girl who can't trust the peoples around her.....but please, remember not all the peoples are mad in this world! take care, my little friend!
MSL, Blue.......yes, we have lot of different peoples here, like in RL: very good peoples and others absolutily mad, but that's how the life is and all we can do is to recognize the mad one and take some measures to avoid them. of course here on aChat is more easy, but there is allways a way to take them away even in real life.....talking about this, Kitten, i'm sorry for what happend to you and i'm glad now you feel a little safe whit the AVO (hope i remember it well!) on him.
i consider all of you like wonderful peoples and i'm glad for the efford everyone show for the others......here on this forum we have a really nice community and i hope this can be moved into achat too!
Thank you all for being part of this family!
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A little note:
i had meet Eve yesterday night, and she is really sorry for the impression she had give to Kitten. She wan to replay and apologize, but seems like her accounts are blocked here at the moment. she will do it when have solved this tecnical problem.
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I know I received a message from Eve (on another of her avatars). I accepted her apology from my perspective like i said in here I may have just misinterpreted what she said. (happens sometimes)
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Wow, way to bash me Blue. I'm not bashing you or what you like... just saying that taking it too far is far enough. But whatever.
Also, it wasn't an issue with Sharon, it was Shannon, and that's done and over with.
And those of you who obviously and completely disagree that mistreatment of woman and young girls, yes, I said girls, (I've run into quite a few who are under 18 here, and BRAG about it, and a lot of guys who LOVE to be with young players - I know, I know, the Achat policies and such... but for all you know, I could be a freaking 8 year old... its far too easy to fake the login data, and create an account, and NOBODY checks until it's reported...) Those of you who LOVE the under age players, or even those who CLAIM to be young, that's my issue. It's pedophilia, even if it's on a GAME, and not in real life.
So, for all those who hate me for bringing this up, Good Bye. I'm done here. Nothing here for me anyway, its not fun anymore. I wish you all well.
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I know I received a message from Eve (on another of her avatars). I accepted her apology from my perspective like i said in here I may have just misinterpreted what she said. (happens sometimes)
glad to read it, Kitten......that's a good news! :D
Trek, no one here had said will love the under age and no one had said will hate you. having different opinion is a normal thing and everyon had to accept others opinion, even if different from our personal one. of course, that doesn't mean you have to agree whit it, but respect it, yes! most here agree whit you, it's so clear, but at the same time we look at all the point who normally come out in a relationship and, to make it work here or in real, yopu havo to know your partner desire and fantasies and, of course, if you have different opinion a good talk about them is really necessary.
Reading your last words, i can presume you wan to leave the forum......and this is sad......hope you don't gonna do it!
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I have to admit, for the past week or two, I have been very upset at the things I've seen going on here on the game, and on the forums.
I have said and done things that are not right, and I would like to formally apologize to the NSPD and Azrielle for my behavior, words, and actions. I took things to extremes, and felt like someone needed to take a stand against the wrongs here, and saw nobody making the first move.
Because of this, I'd like to restate, and clarify, a few of my opinions. Feel free to engage me in debate, but I don't want anyone to feel put down, insulted, left out, or otherwise negated in this.
1. BDSM
First, I do understand and can appreciate the desire to be... shall we say... gently forced, and having passionate and even at times rough sex. (C'mon, who hasn't wanted to replay the scene in Mr. and Mrs. Smith after they fight and nearly kill each-other?)
Second, although I do not have a personal attraction to such things as whipping, spanking, anal, bondage, and other things of that nature, I can certainly understand that many others do.
Third, as far as taking things too far... well, in my opinion, that qualifies as things such as Rape, Forced Sex, and Immediate Family Insest. These things show a tendency to desire such destructive and actually mentally debilitating traumas, and are not something that I personally would wish on my worst enemy. I've had family and friends who were Raped, as I'm sure we've all had friends or family had this happen to them, and there's not anything sexy or lovely or even enjoyable about it. People with these fantasies, need to go see a therapist... probably. Just my opinion.
2. young PLAYERS (Playing)
First. This in itself disturbs me. Not so much that there are guys and gals who are under 18, most between 15 and 17, here who play. I agree to the terms of use, and personally state that I believe it to be wrong for anyone under 18 to be on the site and game.
However, I have to say this in some light defense... most teenagers now days, hardly talk to their parents, or even teachers, or any other authority figure who can properly guide them in the nature of sexual pleasure. Yes, we now have Sex Ed classes and the like, but personal interaction and communication just is missing in so many ways. So, for those users who are here to explore, and gain info, and learn, I understand why you're here. (It's still wrong tho... go talk to your parents.)
Second. For all those of you who like to play teacher or father or student or child... if you're into the college aspect, that's of no issue to me. It's the High-school and Jr. High mentality that I'm talking about here. And, I'm sorry, but if you're really into that kind of thing, get some help... The majority of fantasies that are played out in this manor contain a young person who is usually between 14 and 17... and hardly anyone who admits such fantasizes of a young 18 year old woman or man... the term I've had tossed at me is "The younger the better". This alone appalls me... that anyone can even let such thoughts enter their mind. When I have kids, I know that if anyone even fantasizes about them, those individuals would be paying with... their anatomy parts. (Other parents, please join me in this... uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters...)
3. The GOOD GUYS.
Let me restart this properly.
To all you women out there looking for a decent, good hearted, wonderful, caring, loving, open guy... WE EXIST! The Knights are here, we do treat you women with respect and honor, and we don't like to end up being the "Best Friend", the "Rebound Guy", the "Shoulder to cry on", or Left behind when you decide to get scared, walk away, and go back to the guy who treats you like shit.
We're the Forever guys... the ones who propose and mean it... the ones who would open doors for you, draw baths for you, go to the store and pick up your feminine hygiene products for you... (Yes, I said it... and when that does happen, it means we're yours totally...). We'd go through hell for you, fight for you, and die for you, without a second thought.
In this place, that means that we usually just talk, or dance, or do other simple things at first... we don't rush in and try and rip your clothes off, or jump you right away (Unless we've had some previous alone time... hehehehe...). We just want to see that your needs are met.
GUYS I want you to join me, if you're this type of guy... I'd like to spearhead a group if possible, of guys dedicated to their women, loyal, honorable, real, trustworthy, and who want to show the women of this place that Romance and Love can exist again here.
The ONE limitation I have to you Gentlemen, is that you do not get suckered into the web of the prostitutes and whores here who ask and beg and trick you into giving them A$. This means, no buying pics, and no renting of services. (I am NOT saying you cannot gift. But don't gift from duty or obligation or payment... Instead, give out of love, passion, desire... and because you want to.)
Who and How many of you will Join me in this?
(Not sure if anyone will...)
Ladies, how many of you truly want one of us at your side?
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One final note... to Bluedenim... I'm so sorry for the way I made you feel. It was unkind, and uncaring... and uncalled for. Everyone is different... and sadly to say, I have to agree with you about me being introverted and harsh and rash and... an asshole of late.
Sometimes I just need a good slap to the face, or maybe someone to punch me hard enough for me to wake up... :/
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Trek, i'm glad you are here again whit us and you had clarify better your point of you. I agree to most of the think you had write, on others, well, soon or later i'll gonna find it out......i hope!
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Sometimes I just need a good slap to the face, or maybe someone to punch me hard enough for me to wake up... :/
Yes sometimes everyone does. The important thing is to learn from our mistakes and everyone I am sure is willing to help people learn.
I am proud of you treky.
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For a sec there I thought you called me "Zekkie... as in Zek... grand nagus of the Ferengi alliance... :P)
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It fills my heart with joy that this site and the lovely people on here have boosted your confidence and put a spring back in your step...
Sure,you'll come across idiots every now and then but on the whole, we got a great bunch of people on here..... And it's just great....
It's great we have good guys on here too , especially when you have just dealt with a complete knob & need to put things back in perspective...
Trek, if I may be as bold to say .... It's lovely that you are a generous man .... But you will be taken advantage of..... Especially by unscrupulous people on here... Set yourself a creed.... I will not gift unless .... Just a thought .. It's your game my friend....
Covems, it's about time you had a go on JD's Bull down at the Bar&Grill , there's a skull full of Brandy punch if you can stay on 30 seconds.. ;D
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It fills my heart with joy that this site and the lovely people on here have boosted your confidence and put a spring back in your step...
Sure,you'll come across idiots every now and then but on the whole, we got a great bunch of people on here..... And it's just great....
It's great we have good guys on here too , especially when you have just dealt with a complete knob & need to put things back in perspective...
Trek, if I may be as bold to say .... It's lovely that you are a generous man .... But you will be taken advantage of..... Especially by unscrupulous people on here... Set yourself a creed.... I will not gift unless .... Just a thought .. It's your game my friend....
Covems, it's about time you had a go on JD's Bull down at the Bar&Grill , there's a skull full of Brandy punch if you can stay on 30 seconds.. ;D
You might want to re-read my post. :) I already said, I wont gift unless I want to.
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Love & hug, then, so ...... You going on the bull too ? ;D
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What bull?
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She is talking about this
(http://headblitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/sexy-bull-ride.jpg)
in the Achat Bar & Grill tread! http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,1760.0.html
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Hi Trek,
First I want to tell you that it is very sweet of you to want to behave in this way. A lot of men could stand to learn a few things from others that feel the way you do. Abuse of women is a planet wide problem, it’s not just isolated to one culture or sexual orientation. But I want you to know that “rough sex” or the kind of BDSM I engage in is NOT abuse. In no way have I or any of my partners, Dom or sub, ever been in a situation where we would have been physically or mentally harmed by the sexual activity we engage in. I and my partners go to great lengths to make sure that our play is consensual and that there are enough safeguards in place so that no one ever gets hurt.
Now that being said, I also want you to know that I enjoy being romanced too, and held, and kissed gently, and made love to with respect, just like any other woman. And sometimes that’s all I want. But even most of the women who only want to be treated in this fashion will tell you, that there are times when they want to be thrown to the bed by their sex crazed lover. They want to be bent over and fucked in a moment of passion, and to have their hair pulled. It is very hard to explain why this desire appeals to a lot of women, but for me at least, it makes me feel how much my man really wants me. It makes me feel desired in a way that sweet things whispered in my ear, won’t accomplish.
I think you’ll find that even your “Queen” sometimes desires to be your “Whore” from time to time. Even if she doesn’t come right out and say it.
Just a little food for thought from one of your target audience.
--Christy
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So true Christie, as one of the Vanilla (Strawberry & chocolate ) set , I enjoy the hot wild jungle sex too mmm mmm mmmm OMG - a bit of hair pulling and caveman growls mmm ... :P
Hentai ... top pic ... yehaw ;D
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She is talking about this
(http://headblitz.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/sexy-bull-ride.jpg)
in the Achat Bar & Grill tread! http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,1760.0.html
HB, you bin following me?? Everyone will recognise that denim-clad ass!
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Thought it looked familiar... ;)
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HB, you bin following me?? Everyone will recognise that denim-clad ass!
why did you think it!? a merely combination i was at hthe Bar & Grill that night! ;D
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I actually think it's a good thing that there are guys here that tries to go out of their way to be nice to women. I was initially a bit worried that you might be stepped on by some women or that you are "too nice" ::), but I now have a better picture of at least Treks view and I think it's a good thing. :)
Just too bad it's a bit hard to find good guys that are interested in me.
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I think you’ll find that even your “Queen” sometimes desires to be your “Whore” from time to time. Even if she doesn’t come right out and say it.
Just a little food for thought from one of your target audience.
--Christy
*puts hands up!!*
I absolutely adore romance. I love looking forward to the messages when I am offline. I love waiting for him/her to come online. I love pretending to be busy and then succumbing and all the wonderful playful teasing that develops with a perfect romance.
But then... I also sometimes just want that perfectly set kitchen table to become a mess. *purrs*
Well put Christy!
=)
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Hey Tryst. Welcome to the Forum Fun House - always good to see new members - Know where you are coming from girl ... or cutting the veg at the kitchen sink whilst preparing that romantic meal and your man decides that pinny is just looking too good too waste mmmm mind wondering...
reluctantly returning ... oh yeah, look forward to more of your views and ideas ... check out the other topics.. think some might just be up your street :)
mmm now where was I .... back to the peeling ... :P
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.... or that one time, your working away at the laundry, and you man walks in on you just as your sliding your panties off to fill that last load...
Perfect timing, there is plenty of room for his shirt!! *purrs*
Thanks for welcome. <3
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Just too bad it's a bit hard to find good guys that are interested in me.
it sounds so hard to believe it, Adera.......from how i know you, you are an amazing girl who can be sweet and really resolutive when needed! maybe the guys you are telking really were looking on another way when they meet you!
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Well the thing is that some loose interest when you tell them you're a tgirl, it's just the way it is.
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i understand.....but i'm sure if they know you better, they don't gonna loose it! ;)
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Welcome tryst :) It's always nice to see new faces in this underworld ;D
What I still am missing in this thread is a definition of "good guys". Trek tried to explain what his idea of a nice guy is.
But if it's like you say Trek, then you are a nice guy just for those girls that like exactly the same as you do. If a woman needs a strong hand, a leader, then you are not a nice guy for her.
And this is my idea of a nice guy (I hope I am ;) ): He is honest, accepts that there are women who don't like him because they do have others interests and desires, is able to listen and also tells his own wishes, likes and desires. In general I like to be more active, "to hold the ceptre" (not this one ;) ) and more being a leader then a follower. But I take care that it's great for both. I'm more romantic but having a big tank of passion - though there is no correlation between being a nice guy and romantic/passion/ecstasy.
But I also believe this thread is important. I know out there in the game are many girls disappointed. They think here are just horny, greedy idiots, just searching for a fast fuck, using 75 poses in one session (ty tryst) and give a shit for the girls wishes. So I hope that some of them read this and stay in game.
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Ok, lover, now you lost me... you say there is NO correlation between being a nice guy and romantic/passion/ecstasy? Seriously? You need to re-read what I wrote bro, cause you apparently didn't get it.
I have NO problem grabbing my woman and tossing her on the bed, or pushing her up against the wall, or hell... in the park in front of a hundred onlookers, and having a rough, passionate, and hot as fuck time...
None of this is precluded in the "Romance" section. You need to pay attention, because nowhere did I say that a good guy does NOT do this kind of thing. Passion is also at the core of what we do when we're in love.
I"m just trying to separate the passionate side from the abusive side. I doubt that you are abusive to your women, but I know you are passionate... and loving, caring, and kind also.
Wow, because I don't go into Great details in my post, you think I'm a total softie, and a prude. God... now I understand why girls turn me down, cause they don't get that I can and will take those steps to be extremely passionate in the appropriate moment.
Damn.
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Trek,
I said there is no correaltion betwenn being a nice guy and romantic/passion/ecstasy. This is my opinion. Everyone has (or can have) a romatic core, a passionate one or a core made of stone, lol... he can be a nice guy, a fellow, an asshole, a criminal, a cheat....
You defined your idea of being a nice guy, that's good. Cause we have to make sure to talk about the same thing...just words very often don't really say much because everyone of us has his own idea about a term.
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Ok, I get ya Lover. Got confused there for a bit...
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Well the thing is that some loose interest when you tell them you're a tgirl, it's just the way it is.
It's their loss Adera. You are a beautiful person. -cuddles-
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..............So, for all those who hate me for bringing this up, Good Bye. I'm done here. Nothing here for me anyway, its not fun anymore. I wish you all well.
I am glad you have continued posting, despite the above, which is I assume was a passionate response on a bad day. ;) From your subsequent posts you can see that nobody "hates" you for having a strong, but potentially narrow opinion on various issues. I won't detail the specific areas where you and I agree or disagree, Some of them are semantic nuance.
I will just say that I am glad that you continue to post, share your opinions, and help generate substantive discussion. More importantly, however you choose to treat your partners, have fun on here. It is truly a GAME, even though others may sometimes misinterpret it as a microcosm of RL. ::)
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I do feel the need to speak up on one point.
As long as all associated parties are consenting adults the idea that they should "seek help" for their fantasies seems a dangerous one.
It wasn't until the 70's that homosexuality got taken off the list of mental disorders, but even today there are many who think that we are in fact mentally damaged.
Heck, on this very Forum when I explained to one guy that I don't have sex with men he said "Who's fault is that?" As if the fact I don't want a flesh and blood penis inside me was wrong somehow, and there was someone to blame for turning me off it.
So my take on it is that as long as everyone is a consenting adult (even if they are playing younger) then it's no one's business but theirs.
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Consenting adults is the key phrase here... under the TOS child pornography is discouraged... how that relates to consentual fantasies is a difficult matter to percieve. A fantasy of 2 young lovers discovering their sexuality is entiely different than an old guy seeking his fantasy of taking a 12 year old girl.
The other is a dnagerous predatory practice... and quite frankly a type of personality to entice younger player naive enough to unwittingly be beguiled into releasing personal information whish may lead to more drastic intrusions.
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I'm with you there , consenting adults ... you make your own rules ... anything to do with paedophilia however is plain wrong, against the law & the rules governing here . I will, and have challenged such behaviour on here and on profiles ... and will probably continue to do so :o
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For the sake of clarification paedophilia involves an actual child. Ageplay will involve consenting adults playing young.
For my personal stake I lapse into that "dungeon monitor" mentality. As long as the consenting adult rule is followed, and there is no risk of unintentional injury I will not let myself judge.
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I would like to change the point of view. In RL, if two adults play old and young people... it's not somehting what i like but can accept it - as long as both agree and as long as it stays roleplay or some kind of fantasy.
In AChat we have to think about... we don't know enough about the other person. I believe here are more younger people (teens) which act older... this is the real danger i see.
I know, young people of today are further in their development then we have been when we were 20... and our parents have been 40, 50, 60 years ago... but at least they still are non-adults. They are seeking for they orientation, for love, for finding their own way..
If they meet people who like to rp with young people... I don't wanna think about the possible consequences.
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Your point of you is absolutely right, Lover.....we can't be sure who is on the other side of the screen and our action (even if we done them whit the best intention of this world) can ruin a life or maybe more.....(drastic, but it can happend!)
a solution!? i dunno which one it can be, just try to understand who is in front of you by his/her words, that's all we can do in a chat where you can't see your partner face.
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Of course, I just felt I needed to stand up for consenting adults to do as consenting adults choose to. When minors get involved that rule doesn't apply.
But no, I don't know the solution either.
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In the UK, Paedophilia is the condition of being sexualy attracted to children. A paedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to children. A child is defined as someone under 18 yrs old.
(However in the UK, the consenting age for sex is 16yrs, and 16 and 17yrs old can get married with the consent of their parents.)
Therefore , Children are involved in paedophile behaviour but not ,necesarily an actual child parse, an example of this could be indecent images of children and accompanying literature. Advertising the fact or having a picture of a child on their profiles could constitute a breach in the law here in the UK and I 'm sure would breach the governing rules here on Achat.
I therefore do not wish the reputation of this site to be bought into question,Or for it to be threatened by law enforcement agencies for someone's inappropriate behaviour. I think it is our duty as responsible members to challenge such behaviour firstly and report it to the Mods or Achat if the offending wording / pics are not removed.
Although I think age play if under 18yrs in a room here is wrong, if it is done privately, it would be difficult to curb. It is the blatant advertising on profiles that I will and have challenged. In my eyes, that is not being judgemental, it's safeguarding children and the future reputation of the site which we all enjoy.
Activity involving adults is completely different and although on occasions I may not understand it, I would never force or try to force my views on anyone. Live and let live as they say
Phew that was a bit deep, back to the AB&G I think .... Another round of drinks I think ...
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are we not all roleplaying once we come on to Achat..I love to roleplay but will not play
under the age of 16..have be asked to play young girls but will not do it...
As Brandy has said the consenting age is 16 here in the uk...Of all the guys I have meet on here
over the last 7 months you could count on 1 hands all the good guys..
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(However in the UK, the consenting age for sex is 16yrs, and 16 and 17yrs old can get married with the consent of their parents.)
In france , there is this paradox too . The consenting age for sex is 16 old too and 16 / 17 old can be maried too with the consent of their parents . But a 18 and more old can be arested if he/she have sex with a 16 /17 old
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Mmmmh, dunno if remember well about italian law.....
anyway, as in UK and France, the consenting age for sex is 14 , but it's a little complex to explain with my not so good english, so i had translate with google what i had found
In Italy the age of consent is set at 14 years. The minimum age to have validly of their sexual freedom requires special attention, since it is necessary to assess whether the subject is:
less than 13 years: consensus can not be regarded as valid, irrespective of the age of the author of the facts. If the child is less than 10 years and apply the aggravating circumstance referred to in Article 609-ter, second paragraph, of the Penal Code;
between 13 and 14 years old is considered to be validly given consent only if sexual acts are committed by a minor, as long as the age difference between the two parties does not exceed three years;
between 14 and 16 years old is considered to be validly given consent, unless the offender is the ascendant, parent, adoptive, or his partner, guardian or living with the child, or the child has been entrusted to the reasons of care, education, instruction, supervision or custody;
between 16 and 18 years is considered to be validly given consent, except that sexual acts are performed by the Ascendant, the parent, adoptive, or his partner, or guardian who abuses the powers associated with its location.
hope it's clear
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I just read ever post. my head hurts little lol. anyway. I have to agree with Trekmanalpha when he re-explained him self. Now i don't agree on every thing he said but a lot it. i wont get into what i do and don't. I do my best to treat all forms of women that include TS & CD with respect and all way put there needs before my own. I do this because I'm very open to different form sex acts and if a act come up I'm not comfortable with I let my partner know. I can't count how many acts there are and I don't know if will like them till I look at or tried it.
now on to the young sex. I don't care what the law stats I will not have sexual relation with anyone under the age of 18. when I look for a partner. My age range would be about 5 year younger to about 30 years older maybe little more. now my limit for younger side would 20 no more then that. ofc its stop at 18 no matter what. I'm just referring when I get much older. I do look for other around my age first but have quarrel go out further to more mature women.
If upset anyone my post I'm very sorry did not mean too. and if i did not explain my self clear enough let me know.