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Title: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on December 31, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Okay was thinking back the other day to one of girls i room with and i began to question my choice of words. so i am asking the females of the forum.

Do you enjoy the sexual slang words ?... such as pussy, cunt, dick, cock, tits, ass, ext...

I try using such word in the appropriate situation, like if was complementing a women on her breast, i would say ''you have lovely breast'' vs '' you have lovely Tits''. 

I was wondering what your thoughts on such words are and were are the right times to use such words.


Now for T-girls I have a additional question for you, when referring to your penis what do you prefer it to be called ? I have been asked to call it a clit or she-cock. i was wondering what are your thoughts/opinion or preferences are?


now this question is directed to those with female minds, guys I would like to hear what you have to say as well but lets get the women in here first please.

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Momma_andrea on December 31, 2012, 06:52:48 PM
CONTEXT, CONTEXT, CONTEXT.

if we are in the middle of ...well... fucking, tits, cunt and the more vulgar terms are ok and sometimes preferred.   (i like dirty talk during coitus)
but in foreplay I prefer the more softer terms : breast, pussy.

Context
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on December 31, 2012, 06:59:46 PM
Momma_andrea thank you for your thoughts, yes i do agree with CONTEXT  is a big key on the use of the slang words. its got to be in context. thank you. it was driving me crazy but the is the word i looking for. lol
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: kittenlepurr on December 31, 2012, 07:37:52 PM
I agree its all in context personally though I don't mind the use of those words. Either by me or others.

Do I enjoy them again CONTEXT dependent.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on December 31, 2012, 08:31:48 PM
I concur ... CONTEXT CONTEXT  :)

Depends on my partner... and the heat of the moment...  sensual tends to be breasts, soft orbs, pussy, sex, feminine centre / core - describes the slow, sexy, seduction better...

Hot Dirty , heat of the moment sex / lust ....  anything goes ... but I ALWAYS check with my partner ... some don't like the use of some words and are actually turned off by it and not turned on ... which is not what I want when I am on  heat    ;D  :o
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 01, 2013, 03:16:10 AM
I try using such word in the appropriate situation, like if was complementing a women on her breast, i would say ''you have lovely breast'' vs '' you have lovely Tits''. 


personnaly , i rather the first option , but its just me . As i wrote on my profile in game , i dont like vulgarity .

Generally , i use Pussy , butt ( and not ass ) , penis ( recently learned a new term for it : shaft . but i dont know if its vulgar or not  ;D )
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Covems on January 01, 2013, 07:13:13 AM

You forgot all the fun ones... you know... for those times when you're just fooling around and having some laughs

Breasts:
Headlights, Knockers, Boobs, Melons, Boobies, Fun bags, Lemons, Humps, Hooters, Speed bumps, Bust, Juggs, Bazongas, Mosquito bites, Bazookas, Ta tas, Puppies, Twins, The Girls, Knobs, Globes, Milk wagons, Coconuts, Teats, Titties, Rack, Chesticles, Breasticles, Party pillows, Squachies.

Vagina:
Bearded Clam, Beaver, Box, Cave of Wonders, Wizard's Sleeve, Beef Curtains, Ham Wallet, Box of Assorted Creams,

Pubic Hair:
Bear Trapper's Hat, Minge, Brillo Pad, Landing Strip, Rusty Brillo Pad (Redhead), Baby Bear

Clitoris:
The Magic Button, Little Man in The Boat, The Sugared Almond (my favorite), the Remote Control, Pearltongue, Flick Switch,

Labia (visible through clothing):
Beetle's Bonnet, Camel Toe, Monkey's Chin, Shark's Fin (Swimsuit), Mumblers

Can't forget the guys here
Penis:
Beef bayonet, Blue-veined piccolo, Bologna pony, Choad (As long as it is thick.), One-eyed monster, German helmet, Mr. Happy (my favorite), Grower (One that expands greatly when hard. Opposite of Show-er.), Heat seeking moisture missile, Kickstand, Little _____ (insert your name here), Locker room terror (very large when soft), Jack in the Box (uncircumcised), Weenie, Meat and two veggies, Mutton dagger, Purple-headed womb broom, Show-er (Large when flaccid.  Opposite of Grower.), Trouser snake, Trouser trout, Third leg, Widow-consoler, Willy, Weasel

Intercourse:
Bang the screen door, Doing the nasty, Don Mr. Happy's business suit (put on a condom), Driving the beef bus to tuna town., Give the monkey a banana, Hump like a Schnauzer, How's your father, Hide the salami, Horizontal refreshments, Hop into the horse's collar, Inoculation against virginity, Dr. Covems Meat Injection (good for cold, moles, and what ails ya), Knockin' those boots, Lay some pipe, Park the pink bus in the fur garage, Ride the baloney pony, Run the meat, Sausage and donut situation, Slip'er the crip'ler (debilitatingly vigorous sex and/or penis size), Vaginal bungee jumping, Vatican Roulette (form of monthly gambling that leads to large families)

I may as well keep going....
Fellatio:
Address the court, Blow the horn, Gobble gobble, Give a hummer, Kissin Mr. Happy, Speak into the mike, Polish the knob, Meeting with Mr. One-Eye, Play the pink oboe, Yaffle the yogurt cannon (voracious technique)
 
Cunnilingus:
Airing the orchid, Carpet munching, Gamahuche, Growl at the badger (to make noise while performing), Impersonate Stalin, Muff diving, Yodel in the canyon (to make noise while performing), Lickity split

And for Semen:
Baby gravy, Cupid's toothpaste, Gentleman's relish, Human bonding fluid, Man chowder, Population paste, Jizz, Glazing, Spooge, That tasty non-dairy treat

Use these the next time you are in the "Throes of Passion" with someone... it's almost guaranteed you get a reaction.  ;D

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 01, 2013, 08:39:39 AM
, penis ( recently learned a new term for it : shaft . but i dont know if its vulgar or not  ;D )


That's good Rukya -  not vulgar at all -     penis,  shaft,  rod, length, hardness, cock -   all good sensuous literary words that are respectful.

 Dick -  is slang & slightly more vulgar but still acceptable , more for lusty in the moment selfish need , more controlling and slightly, but only slightly , disrespectful to the gentleman concerned.  ;D

 
@ Covems -   So funny, especially if you go over some of the posts and replace the chosen intimate word for one of your fun suggestions ..


I slowly descend the length of his body, rubbing my bazongers against him sensuously. I reach for his trousers, unzipping his fly, teasing his beef bayonet with the pressure of the slow downward zip action.  I Look deeply into his eyes as my hand surrounds his blue veined piccollo , knowing soon I will be playing a fine tune when I yaffle his yoghurt  :)  My rusty brillo pad cannot help but respond and spew my sexy slug slime :)

Pure Poetry -  what can I say ... :P

"Bear Trapper's Hat", " Baby Bear" ---   Someone's mommy was truly inspired by pubes when they named their little bundle of joy ...   ;D






Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Pafe on January 01, 2013, 09:51:53 AM
Hiya's...

   It is all in the context and the moods.  When I'm feeling sensous and intimate, I tend to use the more gentler words.

   But there are those raunchy times where the "dirty words" just add to the excitement.  I'll use them myself. 

   @ Covems...  don't you every change... you're full of fun, and I love that about you.

   @Brandybee... I loved your reworking of that post, using Covems' lingo... so funny.

"I slowly descend the length of his body, rubbing my breasticles against him sensuously. I reach for his trousers, unzipping his fly, teasing his one-eyed monster with the pressure of the slow downward zip action.  I Look deeply into his eyes as my hand surrounds his willy , knowing soon I will be getting some gentleman's relish when I blow the horn  :)  My box of assorted creams cannot help but respond and spew my sexy girlie lube."  :) 

   Our posts may never be the same  ;D

Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 01, 2013, 10:29:14 AM
Thank you Ladies for your thoughts/opinions. Covems thanks for the list. I planed on add one today but look like you beat me to it lol.
I do believe the mood and context are all key factors in the use of the words but i don't know about some of them, i think there more likely make you laugh then heat up mood.lol there something to try out, instead of hot and raunchy or smooth and sensual. how about funny sex lol.


here some thing i want to add to the above question

 Is there any particular word you absolutely despise no matter the mood or context it was used in?
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Stone on January 01, 2013, 10:46:11 AM
mmmmm   Let me think mmmm   No    ;D


Covems, Jayc - I know you are  my greatest fans...  Here's more ...  :P

"I slowly descend the length of his body, rubbing my PARTY PILLOWS against him sensuously. I reach for his trousers, unzipping his fly, teasing his MEAT & 2 VEG with the pressure of the slow downward zip action.  I Look deeply into his eyes as my hand surrounds his HEAT SEEKING MOISTURE MISSILE , knowing soon I will be getting some BABY GRAVEY when I GIVE A HUMMER    My BEAVER BOX  cannot help but respond and spew my sexy LADY JIZZ."       ::)




Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Pafe on January 01, 2013, 11:16:00 AM
Hiya's...

Is there any particular word you absolutely despise no matter the mood or context it was used in?

   Yes... it's the "C" word... four letters... ends with a "T".  I'm not even going to type it here.

Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: jayc on January 01, 2013, 02:04:42 PM
Covem's post covers most terms used in the USA. But here is a few obscure ones that were omitted.
For Penis  we have.... T.S.M.M.   Tonsil Seeking Meat Missle   
                                        Baby's arm holding an apple   use your imagination
                                        Fleshtone Zucchini
                                        Ant eater              uncircumcised

For Vagina we have    Pen Wiper    heard a crude and gruff truck driver use it once
                                        The Devil Behind The Bush

Hope these additions help when trying to write that perfect erotic post.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 01, 2013, 04:10:01 PM
Now for T-girls I have a additional question for you, when referring to your penis what do you prefer it to be called ? I have been asked to call it a clit or she-cock. i was wondering what are your thoughts/opinion or preferences are?

I automatically think "Oh, so you think of me as a man?" if they refer to mine in a crude masculine way... I really dislike that.

I guess I don't mind it much when its referred to in a cute way or simply by the word "penis", feels kinda neutral for me.

Calling it a "clit" feels a bit over the top imo, I would only do that after SRS.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 01, 2013, 09:28:15 PM
thank you for voicing your opinion Adera. I do believe in my heart that all Ts Tg t-girls are all women not just at heart or soul but in body & mind too and they should treated as such. Have a penis or vagina dose not determine whether you are a women or not IMO, its so much more then that. 

Adera if i may what wold you prefer it be called other then a penis ?
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 02, 2013, 06:08:37 AM
Hiya's...

Is there any particular word you absolutely despise no matter the mood or context it was used in?

   Yes... it's the "C" word... four letters... ends with a "T".  I'm not even going to type it here.

Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe

is this word really hmmm disgracious ?
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 02, 2013, 08:24:49 AM
This is .. Interesting to explain...  the C***  word.  ( AND I DON'T MEAN .. CLIT   ;D  )

Rukya,  this word is the worst insult you can use with a woman, its swearing, its coarse and is usually used by a guy to show total disrespect.  This is why people either do not use it or use it to show the strength of their feelings.  You would not normally use it , in normal sensual, romantic play.

In saying that, there are moments, when the word can be used and its very very hot. It is usually when top / controlling / naughty type play heats up... and another descriptive word is used along with it, ( like sexy, little )., The word used on its own, is still too strong not to be insulting. It should only be used sparingly to heighten the strength of the play, to up it to that next level....

Example...

His hand covertly creeps up her thigh in the crowded restaurant. The feel of his hand stroking her nyloned thigh excites her.Her breath shallows and she pants a little. Her heart rate quickens. Her eyes dart to his and he locks them to him, his intention clear in their depths. He massages her thigh, slow, deliberate and reaches that bared flesh of those stocking tops. He takes a sip of his wine, seemingly cool and unaffected by the naughtiness , hidden by the tablecloth.  She feels hot and picks up her own wine, trying hard to match his amazing control.. and then he leans into her, so his words are carried to her ears only.
" Do I excite you?"  Do you want me?"  He smiles wickedly, deliberately heightening the sexual tension hanging over them " I know you want me. I AM going to touch you. I AM going to push my fingers into you and feel that sweet, sexy wet heat. And"  He pauses, his breathe teasing her ear and hair, " Make that sexy little cunt of yours throb and ache for me till you writhe against me, and shatter right here, right now, in this reastaurant ......"

 
Wonder if that passage would have the same effect if I used some of Covems sexy slang  ..... ;D


Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 02, 2013, 05:33:57 PM
thank you for voicing your opinion Adera. I do believe in my heart that all Ts Tg t-girls are all women not just at heart or soul but in body & mind too and they should treated as such. Have a penis or vagina dose not determine whether you are a women or not IMO, its so much more then that. 

Adera if i may what wold you prefer it be called other then a penis ?

I don't know really, I know a quite good word in Swedish but that doesn't help much. ::)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 02, 2013, 06:06:21 PM
Adera, you tease ... you just got to say now .. :o
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Lover on January 02, 2013, 06:26:25 PM
Why do we have to reduce any shemale to the penis? The ones I know are girls in mind... but they are exisitng persons, each with own individuality.

If you want to talk about using words during romantic love, wild sex or dirty talk it's another topic. But this would mean for everyone here, not just shemales.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 02, 2013, 07:27:34 PM
Why do we have to reduce any shemale to the penis? The ones I know are girls in mind... but they are exisitng persons, each with own individuality.

If you want to talk about using words during romantic love, wild sex or dirty talk it's another topic. But this would mean for everyone here, not just shemales.

He isn't reducing us to that, he is asking for what to call that specific body part when wanting to refer to it. The topic is just stating that he has a question for the female mind and then in his post he actually asks the question.

Adera, you tease ... you just got to say now .. :o

The word I was thinking of was "snopp", but there's also "pille" and "pillesnopp". Those words are mostly used to refer to the penis of a kid in a cuter/funnier way and that's why I think they aren't as bad as some other much cruder words for it. I guess it might be kinda like calling it a "willie" in English.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 02, 2013, 10:27:09 PM
Thanks Adera ...  From an English point of view .. its quite a cute name ..  I could call a pet Guinea Pig  " Pillesnopp"  Or " Snopp"  for short  aww  ;D

Just a thought... thats the first Swedish word I've leant  .. Snopp ..   hehe


( Psst ... off topic ..  go check out Secret Santa And Sign up for Secret Valentine  ;D..  Go on .. Dare ya   ::)  )
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 03, 2013, 03:52:32 AM
Lover I mean no disrespect to any T-girls, I'm just simply asking a question. last thing i want to do is say something to upset anyone. My question are directed to all Females as T-girls are female but unique, so a more direct question is needed. Its not like I can ask female with a vagina what she prefers her penis to be called now can I. lol

If i have offended anyone by my questions or how i asked my questions, I am truly sorry, I only wish to better my self as man and lover. I alway like for my partner to feel conferable when they are with me and the more I know about them the better I can make feel, that dose not mean just individuals knowledge . knowing women as whole is all so key. I'm not afraid to admit that I love women, all forms of women and for that I like to know more about them as well. One cant know women with out asking them what they like. this of course  is my opinion.

Ladies, thank you for answering my questions. I really do appreciate it.

Adera thank you for sticking up for me. what you said is very true.

well in English or American English I'm not  sure about the others but a young boys penis is normally referred  to as wee wee or pee pee. now this is very young mind you. around 2 to 10 give or take few years when ever he starts to talk more fluently.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Lover on January 03, 2013, 04:04:44 AM
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I'm just simply asking a question

Dustin, I have followed the thread from the beginning as I do with each topic. I just saw the danger this thread could get into a wrong direction - from asking a question to have better understanding to just talk about a special part of the body. That's all.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Covems on January 03, 2013, 05:02:42 AM

Whoa.... snopp, snopp, snopp... what a fun word!  I like the way it like "pops" from the lips... snopp.  Much like the way the word smock does... smock, snopp, smock, snopp, schnapps, smock, snopp.

I love words... please give us more Swedish lessons!  And for the rest of the non-native english speakers.... come on... don't hog all your words.  Share some of yours with us, too... oh... and expressions, too...

I'm asking everyone to please translate this for me... it may help me "break the ice".

"Oh sweet, thing... I'm going to slide my trouser trout between your lovely fun bags before I ravage your cave of wonders and spill my spooge."

Isn't it romantic?    (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/182/b/6/Beating_Heart_by_Angel_of_your_Heart.gif)   (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/182/b/6/Beating_Heart_by_Angel_of_your_Heart.gif)   (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs46/f/2009/182/b/6/Beating_Heart_by_Angel_of_your_Heart.gif)

Back on topic:

I understand Dustin's question...  It's not a matter of labeling... it's a matter of syntax... Eventually, if things go well, we're going to become intimate here...  and... the wrong word at the wrong time can spoil things (trust me, I know), and... with some of the people I've met, you only get ONE chance.

Say the wrong thing and you get zapped into the Ignore Bin, with no chance to apologize or explain your meaning.  He he... I'm in a few of those...
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Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 03, 2013, 03:55:21 PM
( Psst ... off topic ..  go check out Secret Santa And Sign up for Secret Valentine  ;D..  Go on .. Dare ya   ::)  )

Naw I think I'll pass.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 03, 2013, 11:24:34 PM
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Say the wrong thing and you get zapped into the Ignore Bin, with no chance to apologize or explain your meaning.  He he... I'm in a few of those...

to true Covems, to true.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 04, 2013, 12:33:33 PM

I love words... please give us more Swedish lessons!  And for the rest of the non-native english speakers.... come on... don't hog all your words.  Share some of yours with us, too... oh... and expressions, too...




hmmm you want some words , ok here are some in french  ;D

female sex : moule ( irrespectuous ) , chatte ( very vulgar ) , minou ( cute ) , ventouse ( irrespectuous ) , craquette ( very old word )

male sex     : bite ( vulgar ) , popol ( fun ) , tob/zob ( used generally by "bad peoples" ) , poireau ( vulgar ) , missile ( pretentious ) , asticot ( generally an insult ) , vermicelle ( same as asticot )

there :) welcome in the wonderfull french langage world  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Lover on January 04, 2013, 01:07:38 PM
Some german words:

for female sex: Muschi, Pussy, Möse, Schnecke, (Lust-)Grotte, Himmelstor (heaven's gate), Honigtopf (playful.. honey pot), fötzchen, Fotze (very hard, very dirty talk), Mumu, Scheide, Ritze, Vagina, Paradies, Kätzchen

for male sex: Schwanz, Latte, Teil, Ständer, Rohr, Penis, Rakete, Lustspender, Pimmel, Banane, Schniepel, Schniedelwutz (last more funny), Schlange (snake), Anaconda, Ding (thing), Johannes, kleiner Freund (little friend), Glied, Lümmel, Zauberstab, Föte, Rute, drittes Bein (3rd leg), Fleischpeitsche
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Covems on January 05, 2013, 05:18:35 AM

Cool.... thanks for the words... Or should I say: 
"Merci des nouveaux mots."
"Danke fur die neuen worter."


So the next time I'm touring Europe and we're at that little cafe in Paris... if I order "Est-ce que je peux svp avoir un minou?" will I get a giggle or a slap?

I really like Muschi.  I like the way it plays on the lips and tongue... hey... double entendre.  ;D


It will never be the same, ordering coffee in a Starbuck's again.

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Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Lover on January 05, 2013, 05:24:14 AM
In my fave cafe when the (known) waitress asks, I sometimes say "I'd like to get a Latte"  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Mollie on January 05, 2013, 07:18:55 AM

It will never be the same, ordering coffee in a Starbuck's again.

Only YOU would think of that.  lol

In my fave cafe when the (known) waitress asks, I sometimes say "I'd like to get a Latte"  ;D

Oh no... there are others, too!!!  lol
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: piratee on January 05, 2013, 11:09:20 AM
hi all.. happy new year...

to follow Rukya (bisous ma belle), some words in creole (language from my island !, it's also creole in caraïb islands but not the same one.)

Mr: un cabot (a fish who lives deep in the ocean (i don't let mine go so deep... in the ocean of course ! ))
      in french: Igor ( a prince, everybody is kneeling in front of him.. )
                      le pipeau a moustache (the pipe with mustache)

Lady: la foufoune (no translation.. )
          le chouchou (a vegetable called Christophine)
          french: le sourire vertical (vertical smile)

and a sentence from my island: "cabot levé l'a point la raison !"    (if you have a hardon.. you're crazy !)


love is a devil i love too much!
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 05, 2013, 12:12:08 PM

So the next time I'm touring Europe and we're at that little cafe in Paris... if I order "Est-ce que je peux svp avoir un minou?" will I get a giggle or a slap?



Hmmm you will get a slap i suppose , the question is why would you ask " can i have a pussy svp ? " in a little cafe in paris ?  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Covems on January 05, 2013, 02:59:57 PM

Ummmm.... Because I want some pussy?  You never know what you can get unless you ask for it.

Sometimes just the slightest change in pronunciation of a word can open up a world you didn't know existed.  I had a very memorial time when I used the words chi-chi in Mexico.  ;D

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 05, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
hehe if you ask some chi-chi in france , you'll have a kind of confisery  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 05, 2013, 10:04:12 PM
lol I did not for see my question going in this direction.

Its been nice reading and learning all the new words, thanks everyone. ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 15, 2013, 04:38:02 AM
Ok I have other question.

What is your thoughts / opinion on body hair on men?

please elaborate on your answer.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 15, 2013, 07:01:06 AM
hehe i'm not hetero , but the anwser is easy to me  ;D the less body hair , the better , and i do this rule even for me  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 15, 2013, 07:47:24 AM
Personally I think that it looks manly and quite sexy on some men, beard stubble can look quite sexy as well. I guess I like the rugged look somewhat. :P
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: kittenlepurr on January 15, 2013, 01:08:04 PM
excessive hair is turn off for me.

I would prefer no body hair at all facial hair is ok but body no. Also I would rather they keep their lower area tidy at least or bare.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: bluedenim on January 15, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
I don't like my man like a walking rug or silver-back, but I do like some chest hair, trimmed pubes and long stubble.

and he has all of them.   :) :) :)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 15, 2013, 02:39:03 PM
I agree that some grooming is nice.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 15, 2013, 04:10:59 PM
mmmmm,  I personally like a manly man and not a shaved boy  :)   There's something about a hairy muscular chest and that little line than runs to the promised land mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm    :)


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and one especially for Pafe  :)

(http://media-cache-ec2.pinterest.com/upload/140948663307971310_DjfgoDuU_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Momma_andrea on January 15, 2013, 07:55:47 PM
A little chest hair, not the full rug like Tom Sellek. Beards are sexy, but not the mountain man look and not stubble (stubble scratches thighs).  I actually love a nice tappered military style haircut. It's neat and masculine. I run my fingers across that stubble at the base and then into the slightly longer hair.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 16, 2013, 09:54:26 PM
thank you Ladies , i appreciate the honest answer   :)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Momma_andrea on January 18, 2013, 08:14:53 AM
I have a similar shot that I love, looks like the same day.  mmmmmm is right.
He needs a shave though...I'd do it.  ;D
(http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/2012/11/jobHugh_Jackman_Ripped.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Marilyn on January 18, 2013, 08:17:40 AM
Ladies,

Google this/Pics: Joe Manganiello  ;)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 18, 2013, 08:53:01 AM
Marilyn, yes he is indeed hot. :P

Imo Alexander Skarsgård is soooo hot, wish he would play vampire with me. ;D

(http://newnownext.mtvnimages.com/gallery/alexander-skarsgard-shirtless/alexander-skarsgard-shirtless.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Cheya on January 18, 2013, 09:10:07 AM
I have a similar shot that I love, looks like the same day.  mmmmmm is right.
He needs a shave though...I'd do it.  ;D
(http://stupidcelebrities.net/wp-content/2012/11/jobHugh_Jackman_Ripped.jpg)

RAAAWRRR ;D ;D ;D, that much hair is perfectly fine with me considering that gorgeous body .... looking sooo manly and hot in general *a long drawn out sigh* hugh jackman  :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Marilyn on January 18, 2013, 09:21:58 AM
You can have Hugh Jackman!

 (http://www.collegebaseballconnect.ca/links/images/CBC-Cheerleader.gif):D Joe Manganiello :D (http://www.collegebaseballconnect.ca/links/images/CBC-Cheerleader.gif)

(http://www.okmagazine.com/sites/okmagazine.com/files/imagecache/gallery_full_image/photo_gallery_picture_images/joe-manganiello-june26-002.jpg)

(http://img23.fansshare.com/photos/joemanganiello/joe-manganiello-vf-italy-1028736169.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Marilyn on January 18, 2013, 09:23:03 AM
Marilyn, yes he is indeed hot. :P

Imo Alexander Skarsgård is soooo hot, wish he would play vampire with me. ;D

(http://newnownext.mtvnimages.com/gallery/alexander-skarsgard-shirtless/alexander-skarsgard-shirtless.jpg)

Yes, Adera. The boodsucker is sexy...
But i still prefer the untamed hot werewolf  :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Lover on January 18, 2013, 09:51:19 AM
Due to misuse of copyrights and TOS will this thread be locked soon.








In one or two years... :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Marilyn on January 18, 2013, 10:01:52 AM
Due to misuse of copyrights and TOS will this thread be locked soon.

Seriously?  :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Momma_andrea on January 18, 2013, 02:36:00 PM
I have a similar shot that I love, looks like the same day.  mmmmmm is right.
He needs a shave though...I'd do it.  ;D

RAAAWRRR ;D ;D ;D, that much hair is perfectly fine with me considering that gorgeous body .... looking sooo manly and hot in general *a long drawn out sigh* hugh jackman  :D

I'm just talking about his face. The Chest hair is PERFECT.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: A123lolo on January 18, 2013, 03:39:11 PM
tttzzz !!
Calm down girls

Yes, they are beautiful men.

But, personally, my body is very similar with theirs.
I have the same abdominals ... under a little potbelly  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 18, 2013, 04:51:55 PM
Yes, Adera. The boodsucker is sexy...
But i still prefer the untamed hot werewolf  :D

Mmmm think of the untamed passion. :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 18, 2013, 06:12:26 PM
lol
I have to agree with Momma_andrea & Cheya, out all the guys posted up hugh jackman is the best looking, then I guess Joe Manganiello .
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Rukya on January 18, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
hmmmm they are not bad , but they are men  ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: bluedenim on January 19, 2013, 12:04:34 AM
Joe does it for me!
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Stone on January 19, 2013, 05:23:54 AM
It seems some mischief got between me and my Hunky Hugh & that delectable hairy chest mmmm   ...  ;D   

(http://cdn04.cdnwp.celebuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/21/21/Hugh-Jackman-Hairy-Chest-435x580.jpg)

And I still think ...  Wolverines beat Vampires & Werewolves...  :o

(http://mtv.co.uk/files/2012/09/25/wolverine_first_look.jpg)



I REST MY CASE M'LUD  


( Lover ...  This is not over .....  hehehehe  :-*   )


Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 19, 2013, 08:14:31 AM
Okay Girls that enough with the picture please. I don't want this getting off topic.

Thank you



ps.Stone the last picture is awesome. I'm totally take that picture and putting it into my Badass folder. lol
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 19, 2013, 08:39:56 AM
Mollie you did not have to remove your post, it was fine. I'm just letting everyone know before it gets off topic.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 19, 2013, 09:40:58 AM
*Pout* we don't say anything when you post images of girls.

I don't care who wins in a fight, Alex smile and humour wins me over any day... oh and he's tall. ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 19, 2013, 10:58:37 AM
Ok I have other question.

What is your thoughts / opinion on body hair on men?

please elaborate on your answer.

Well, personally ,  I dont  think  it is getting off topic, it is answering the question asked,  it seems the ladies are having a healthy debate on hairy chests and finding evidence to back up their findings and beliefs. I applaud their research and findings.  In fact I definitely think they should post more so other forum readers can assess and come to their own conclusion..  It is quite necessary research of course .. and hardly has anything to do with me leching  ;D

(http://media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com/upload/198228821067970916_mrBH1Xh9_b.jpg)

(http://media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/upload/121808364891043876_sh3dkoob_b.jpg)

 ;D

Mollie, I really do need to see your picture, the research would just be incomplete without it   :P

(http://a1.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/29/f5f95f53993efc9440ad003f5aed4e96/l.jpg)

Ok,  that last one,  that is probably more leching than not ..  big sigh ...  He is  UK,  a wild life expert , and just teases us ladies with glimpses such as these...   ;D
And  OMG -  you should see him in a wet tea shirt ...  fanning myself ... phewwwwwwww

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 19, 2013, 11:22:28 AM
Oh, you're very right in you assessment Brandy, research has to be done.

I also want to see what Mollie posted. :P
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 19, 2013, 12:09:22 PM
Thank you Adera ...  by the way .. we both look good in research glasses   :)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 19, 2013, 06:30:56 PM
*Pout* we don't say anything when you post images of girls.

I don't recall posting picture of girls here.

Ok I have other question.

What is your thoughts / opinion on body hair on men?

please elaborate on your answer.
Well, personally ,  I don't  think  it is getting off topic, it is answering the question asked,  it seems the ladies are having a healthy debate on hairy chests and finding evidence to back up their findings and beliefs. I applaud their research and findings.  In fact I definitely think they should post more so other forum readers can assess and come to their own conclusion..  It is quite necessary research of course .. and hardly has anything to do with me leching  ;D

Okay Brandy you got me there, lol  I just did not want this to turn into a discussion all about witch guy is better looking. All so I'm sorry if I hurt anyones feelings not my intention. Mollie please repost your picture so everyone my see it.



In the spirit of research how about this guy?

(http://media-cache-ec6.pinterest.com/upload/105482816243672302_0JH5Z1Co_c.jpg)

I may post a new Question soon so if still have "research" to post up best to do it soon. Happy hunting ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Momma_andrea on January 19, 2013, 07:00:48 PM
A little too furry, just a little.

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 19, 2013, 07:09:14 PM
If we truly want to research this then something completely different might be good as a reference... like Justin Bieber for instance.

He's 18 btw.

Personally I find him too young but I took him as an example for the boyish look.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 19, 2013, 09:49:20 PM
No Justin Bieber.

If you have any mercy please don't speak of him again. please!!!
LOL
hes 18 already, his look needs to man up. far to boyish for his age.
by that age i all ready had a full beard.

I honestly don't understand that boyish man look or feminine man look. I can understand in some cases but if you are guy through and through & have that look or personality dose not make sense to me. some time I get the feeling that there are less men and more boys in world. Where the tough guy who stand up for his friends and loved ones? wheres the guy that fights for his beliefs. I'm not talking about the rough and tough guy who beats everyone up just for looking at him wrong. you Know the kind of man you can trust and count on to have your back. not the hid in a corner type of guys. I can say with out a doubt that women have more balls then men do at lest here were i live. I see a lot less courage in men,
and more in women.

This will bring me to my new question for you ladies but will hold it off for now so you can chat more about my last question a bit more.
As a hairy man my self I'm grateful for your thoughts and opinions and I don't plan on changing that about my self.

looking forward on what you all have to say
Happy Hunting :)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Mollie on January 20, 2013, 05:32:19 AM

On an episode of “Tough Love Couples,” everyone had to dress up like their partner’s fantasy and a bunch of the ladies asked their men to get their chests waxed.  Why, oh why?!  It’s a serious crime against nature to strip a man of chest hair!  Waxing it off isn’t just painful physically; it places hairlessness on a pedestal that creates an image of men just as ridiculous as those pin-thin models we ladies gripe about.

I tell you, deforestation of men has become a growing problem.  With all these uber-manscaped models and Hollywood types badgering studkind to get waxed, a man with chest hair is practically an endangered species.  "The Art Of Manliness" gurus agree that we have to protect it.

Maybe I’ve dated too many bears real men, maybe I’ve watched too many episodes of “Magnum P.I.” or maybe ladies like me are biologically hardwired to smile when we see a wisp of manliness creeping out the top of a shirt, but to me, nothing is sexier than a good ol’ handful of chest hair.  And I’m not alone; according to AskMen.com, 76 percent of women love it!

So, I was shocked to not only see, but also hear an earful of hair issues from a perfectly sprawled man while I watched the “Tough Love” guys get waxed.  It made me realize tough guys are as insecure about their chests as we women can be!  Apparently, many men who can sprout a substantial "body ‘stache" have felt like it’s something they have to get rid of or hide.

Baby, like sex, cheese, and the other joys in life, when it comes to chest hair, the more the better.  I mean, have you seen the shirtless Selleck Waterfall Sandwich?  Mm, mm, and mmmmm, that’s what I’m talking about!

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u571/Mollie6161/ForumStuff/SelleckSandwich_zpsaa5db484.jpg)

There is a reason they call it a happy trail.

(http://i1322.photobucket.com/albums/u571/Mollie6161/ForumStuff/SexyCowboy_zps29ea97c1.jpg)

Heck, there’s a reason men’s shirts come with buttons— it’s so you can pop it like it’s hot!  I swear, man cleave can be just as distracting as a pair of lady double D’s.  I could get lost in the swirls for hours … and I have.  Although, really, just like boobs, any amount of chest hair is enough to play with.  Still, I’ve seen countless models and pretty boys preened, plucked, robbed, er, waxed like no hair equals guy perfection.

Beyond preference and practicality, there is a real reason. It’s plain wrong for the media to project on manly men that an ideal man is hairless when almost no man has fur-free pecks.  It’s as laughable as the idyllic “Barbie” representing real women, or in this case, “Ken,” as the standard for men.  Men, I encourage you to apply the same feminist body-empowerment to yourselves!  We love to love you just the way you are.  Don’t let this unrealistic image make you feel insecure about taking your shirt off. Can’t we all agree that a man without a shirt is always a beautiful thing?

Look, it’s one thing if you’re born hairless and you rock it.  No disrespect, bang a gong, get it on!  I just hope all you studs out there don’t manscape yourself away until you’ve got nothing left.  Just like with good sex, gentlemen, you’ve got to do what comes naturally.


Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on January 20, 2013, 06:25:34 AM
Mollie you beautiful women.

THANK YOU

that was a vary nice read, well written too. I could not have said that any better.

why did i get suck with the 24%. every girl iv have meet told me to shave. they acted like it was some kind of disease.
I know I'm a hairy guy but some said they would not come near me even with a 10 feet pole. acting as if they puking at the sit of me. I know I'm not best looking guy but that was just plan hurtful.

thank you again Mollie 
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: bluedenim on January 20, 2013, 07:42:47 AM
Joe does it for me!

(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff514/BlueNewGurl/Mmmmmm_zpse4618c04.jpg)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 20, 2013, 08:42:09 AM
Well said Mollie  ,    HEAR HEAR

 BTW,  You have just strengthened  my fettish  in Stetsons ....    Hello Cowboy mmmmm   :P   :P    :P

This is fast becoming my favourite topic ... ::)

Justin Bieber .. mmm ...  hopefully he will grow up and man up  soon..  lots of crusts  to get those follicles stimulated,   ;)   Then i'll assess again in about 20 years    ;D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Marilyn on January 20, 2013, 09:35:56 AM
Joe does it for me!

(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff514/BlueNewGurl/Mmmmmm_zpse4618c04.jpg)
:o

Look at that... sea! The color of the water is nice, bet thats warm! Perhaps carabbean! Ive been there once. ::)
Thank you, blue!
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: andreacan on January 20, 2013, 11:29:17 AM

guys that look too pretty usually know it.. and are like exotic cars... they expect and need too much upkeep!  ;)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on January 20, 2013, 01:14:09 PM
Well said Molly. :P

There are however some very nice cars that aren't as expensive. :P

Btw something I like is when men dress stylish, I like it when others think that my boyfriend is well dressed.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Marilyn on January 21, 2013, 02:03:16 AM


guys that look too pretty usually know it.. and are like exotic cars... they expect and need too much upkeep!  ;)
  :D

Well said!
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Mollie on January 21, 2013, 03:28:05 PM
Speaking of cars and men...

If it has testicles or tires, sooner or later it's going to give you trouble.

Oh.. Ladies:

(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ33xyQAkKD2iw7AqSOEjz4TczQZJPcawrRiRiRO8-nyc_tMSZXnHal4wXU6w)

When you look at this cowboy, you almost wonder if he could be real, or if it’s a painting or graphic design. This handsome stud looks almost too good to be real, but I’m hopin’ he is! I’m guessing his eyes are blue under that hat.

This macho guy caught my attention. That big moustache that I just know would tickle. And don’t your fingers itch to run through that chest hair?

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Cheya on January 22, 2013, 09:44:38 AM

guys that look too pretty usually know it.. and are like exotic cars... they expect and need too much upkeep!  ;)

Pfff, Stone and I are not giving up so easily on hugh, we have a special plan for him mwahahaha  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Brandybee on January 22, 2013, 03:23:33 PM

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(http://i1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff514/BlueNewGurl/Mmmmmm_zpse4618c04.jpg)
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 :o

Look at that... sea! The color of the water is nice, bet thats warm! Perhaps carabbean! Ive been there once. ::)
Thank you, blue!
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What sea,   ;D     guess I must be focused elsewhere   ::)

@ Mollie --      mmm  a white stetson ...   interesting.   That may require more study   :P

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on February 07, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
Hey every one, I'm back and I have a other question for the the lovely Ladies of the forum.

I just got myself a years membership (finally lol) and want to know witch poses for MF are best in your opinion. i got 4000 A$ and I like to get what the ladies like or prefer. I like to spend what little i have wisely. so please let know me *hugs & kisses to all*

 :)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: hentaiboy69 on February 08, 2013, 02:18:53 AM
Dustin, welcome back!

I can suggest you to start reading the "Woman with man in AChat" with the comment to the released poses, so you can have a first idea! then, you can try to ask to some of our nice ladies to help to test them..... ::)
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: sexilicious on February 08, 2013, 07:50:31 AM
wb Dustin and as for your question well it depends on each lady for each will have different likes and dislikes. As for me been so long since I've been in the room to test them all that i couldn't say anymore plus haven't tested any of the new ones. Might need to correct that now that i have internet again hehe.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Covems on February 08, 2013, 09:02:14 AM

I'm not a female so feel free to disregard this, but there's a nice example of what to do with AChat start-up money in this category.

It's pinned to the top of the page, and the topic is titled:  Getting Started.  MoonCalf asked what to purchase with a limited budget.  There are some very helpful hints written by experienced players.  It's on page 2 of the topic.

Check it out.

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on February 08, 2013, 06:30:08 PM
Thanks for the info everyone.  :) I got few FM poses made sure spread out the type of pose i got and I got most of SM poses as well i think got all one i want but I cant check right now as there is no robot t-girl. lol. thanks again for all the help.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on February 08, 2013, 07:55:59 PM
I'm having little trouble choosing a face. its very hard to know what will fit my style any opinions on witch one looked the best.?
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: bluedenim on February 09, 2013, 08:03:01 AM
Dustin,

If you're ever lucky enough to catch me online, I have all the poses...... ;D

and I think you'll find that many of the "older" (older pmsl) residents have too.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Covems on February 09, 2013, 11:53:41 AM
many of the "older" (older pmsl) residents have too.

NO, NO, NO... *throwing up hands*  DUSTIN... Stay away from the ones with PMS for at least a week.

Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: G1adys on February 09, 2013, 03:32:47 PM
I'm having little trouble choosing a face. its very hard to know what will fit my style any opinions on witch one looked the best.?

I understand that it's difficult to find a good face. We need normal faces for men, because available ones are... well, they tend to vary between 'mildly retarded' and 'just plain ugly' :D

No offence, actually, but a decent male face here in Achat is a rare find :D
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on February 10, 2013, 01:07:47 AM
bluedenim I may just take you up on your offer. :) I will keep an eye out for you. thanks  ;)

Oh Covems, always good for a laugh.

G1adys I totally agree, I have look through the shop many times and just laugh at face options. but i give them benefit of the doubt. As i have seen some good looking fem faces but when you but it on its horrible. I still have default face for my male avatar. i  not buying any body mod for my avatar till a dressing room option is available or I get good review on it. thats why I'm asking you ladies, its the face you being looking at best let you choose lesser of the many evils  lol.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on March 18, 2013, 06:42:52 PM
OK I have question for the SM women of are community.

Witch of following do you prefer and or find hurt full being called ? 

Shemale , T-girl, TS, transsexual, transgender, Tranny ext..

if I left any other term out would you be so kind as to and them.
thank you.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on March 19, 2013, 01:49:57 AM
I prefer transsexual or tgirl for a shorter term.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Concerto on March 19, 2013, 02:49:42 AM
Shemale is a derogatory term, in my opinion.

If we are talking about persons that cannot be distinctly identified as gender binary, i.e. male or female, then the correct term is "intersex", which is what I use, although I will also use the term "tg", or others, depending upon whom I am talking to.

The problem, as far as AChat is concerned,  is that there is a large group of people that, although in theory they satisfy gender binary, feel that they are of the opposite sex and/or live as if they are of the opposite sex. These people, in Achat terms, either consider themselves as male/female homosexual or "shemale"

...which is fine.

This is a game and we can call ourselves what we like :) As in life, it is what others call us that matters.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Adera on March 19, 2013, 04:17:52 AM
Concerto, are you born with a intersex condition and are transgender in addition to that? Why I ask is because intersexualism and transgender isn't the same thing, you can of course be both, but they're not the same thing.

Intersexualism is a condition one can be born with and makes one develop in a way that isn't statistically normal while transgender is when your sex isn't the same as your gender identity.

More information can be found here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex#Transgender

The problem as you describe it are those who are transgender and sexual orientation isn't a part of that, some may be homosexual while others are heterosexual or bisexual.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Concerto on March 19, 2013, 05:05:26 AM
Thanks Adera but essentially you have confirmed what I said.

I said "that cannot be distinctly identified as gender binary" not whether they self  identify as woman or man (or other). Of course they are not the same thing.

Perhaps I used the word "problem" incorrectly because I also said "this is a game and we can call ourselves what we like", no problem.


p.s. perhaps you picked up on the fact that I said I use the term "tg". That is because it is often easier to understand by persons than "intersex" although, on the contrary, it is probably a far more complex condition.
Title: Re: Another Question for the Female mind.
Post by: Kingdustin on March 19, 2013, 06:17:36 PM
Thank you ladies, so much. I do not wish to offend anyone and this help me a lot to understand and treat the Ladies better with out my ignorance hurting anyone. :)

I have  looked it up but i felt it be best to hear it for you fine Ladies. Thank you very very much.  :-*