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Title: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on August 05, 2013, 02:52:42 PM
Hi,

many members love BDSM/kinky posts and, for several reasons, some don't like it. We want to confine the BDSM topics from all other. A-Team is working on a unique sign, but as long as we don't have it we ask for:
- ideas to make clear, a topic is BDSM/kinky play
- not to post BDSM in "usual" vanilla topics
- those, who don't like BDSM, not to post negative comments in BDSM threads

First idea, which we also will do next days:
If there is a BDSM topic, we change message icon to "Exclamation point" (the "!" you can use for new topics)

This thread is for more ideas, but also to discuss  in general.

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: tangoracer on August 06, 2013, 08:17:34 AM
Lover

Just a thought on the topic

May be the writer of the post could write a small warning banner that the post contains DBSM content.

As Miss ChristinaK did with her posts with Blue back at the start of the the Ice House (page 5)

**A WORD OF WARNING TO THE READER.  THIS WAS DISCUSSED BY BOTH BLU AND MY SELF BEFORE IT WAS WRITTEN.  THIS IS THE WAY BDSM IS PLAYED OUT IN REAL LIFE.  RARELY IS A BDSM SCENE SPONTANEOUS.  THEY ARE CAREFULLY PLANNED AND EXECUTED.  DO NOT TRY THIS WITH SOMEONE UNLESS YOU HAVE DISCUSSED IT WELL IN ADVANCE.**

Or maybe we can ask mrsexlover to make us a warning banner so its the same for everyone 

Just a thought  Master Tango :) 
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 08:45:08 AM
Tango, i had try to find out a better way too then simply use the "!" simbol, cause at last, it's not clear for new users when they come here the first time.
Maybe we can add some few line in "posting rules" as a warning for new users who are interessed in BDSM and want to share their experience or pics about it......more visibility we give to this signal, more easily it will be to get used to it!
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: mrsexlover on August 06, 2013, 08:51:26 AM
if you like you can use this at the start, it's a first concept to what Tango was dicussing, it also display's the ! symbol in it

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5476/9452628268_75d9440e8b_o.jpg)

Just let me hear what you think
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: tangoracer on August 06, 2013, 08:55:03 AM
Well that was fast mrsexlover :) Love it

Just the sort of thing I was thinking of 

Thanks Tango
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 08:58:40 AM
uhmmm.....it's ok to add it at the begin of thread, so i think we can use it (Hellokitty, lol! nice choise!  ;D) but the problem is when you can only see the list  of threads. we need an icon who recognize the suject immiadiately! and till the Dev-team are not going one to use, we can use the "!", so please, paY attention and don't use it if it's not BDSM action!
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: mrsexlover on August 06, 2013, 08:59:53 AM
You're welcome Tango, i just had some time to quickly make one for you.  ;D
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 09:07:53 AM
I found this icon.....

(https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/2452643317/fav_icon_hull_bdsm_bigger.png)

a bit big, but it can be an idea to start with.....and i think it's pretty clear!
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on August 06, 2013, 09:47:12 AM
I like Mrsexlovers banner -   just a couple of suggestions ..   I think BDSM   should be changed to  AN  EXTREME    so it covers all kinks and fetishes  and the writing should be in bright red -  the international colour for danger or warning .. 

Great work, Martin   ;D
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 10:05:42 AM
i think Brandy is right, even if i can't see any other extreme situation......considering the one who come in my mind are all against TOS, so not allowed automatically! well, in teory!
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on August 06, 2013, 10:16:27 AM
I was thinking...  pissing, shitting,   lactating women / baby play,  more extreme of the kinks, not just confined to BDSM.  It could still be offensive to some.

I'm sure there are others too,  but those are the ones that spring to mind.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 10:34:46 AM
i see what you mean, like the story Andrea wrote where a woman roleplay to be young......yes, this can be a good point.

Now, i think.......a banner with generic danger signal is perfect, then it's up to the artist (talking about story or pics) adding a line to explain the subject of the warning. or we can do more banner....one for every things we have in mind!
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on August 06, 2013, 10:40:56 AM
Martin's banner is nice. Perhaps some little changes, the rest is perfect. We may not have more banners, people may be confused instead of warned. Most important is the message icon, the exclamation point in front of the thread.

One banner and individual words in the beginning, which content there is - and the titel should be unique too.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 10:44:42 AM
I see wich mod you mean, lover......making it a bit more generic, not only about BDSM but about feticism in general too
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Momma_andrea on August 06, 2013, 01:33:02 PM
I love the use of "Hello Mistress"...I mean Kitty, in the banner
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on August 06, 2013, 02:01:28 PM

ok, I have no problem with any stories, role-plays or generally unsavory behaviour being labelled as such because some people might be upset by it, but this would mean that 90% of the pictures posted need moving to a different topic/thread and especially the gif topic.
We have many topics, why can't we just have a whole section called "BDSM related topics & pictures" which anyone who might not like "BDSM" will know they should avoid and where all us dirty people can post and write as we want?

There are some topics I find extremely distasteful, should I list them and suggest labels for them? will scat, cannibalism, age-play, asphyxiation and several other "HARD" fetishes be lumped together with what I do?
There are people on Achat who find any kind of non-straight sexual behaviour anathema, should we hide that from them?
There are many homosexuals who find straight behaviour extremely offensive, what have we for them?
Achat is full of men pretending they are girls and women pretending they are girls, but I for one take things at face value
I think we would do well to remember what this site is and why people come here. Censorship of any kind should be avoided or where will we stop.

rant over!

 
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 06, 2013, 02:37:57 PM
Blue, we are not going to put censorship to you, just wanna find a way to warning about sensible content in certain oriented thread. And yes, BDSM is only one of them, so the warning we gonna realize will be a generic one and not a specific one.....we hope this will help people who don't want to read certain content to avoid them, so there can be no polemic about this and that!

with this, we mods hope this particulary contents can be discussed by people who have some interess in them, this is the main point! of course, the TOS of AChat is a firm point even in this situation....no bestiality, pedophily.....


Hope i had make our intention clear, Blue......sorry if you had a wrong impression about what we are trying to do!
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on August 06, 2013, 02:39:46 PM
Blue, thanks for your open and honest words. This is the reason we started the topic, we want a discussion.

Though we don't have to discuss one point: There is no and there never will be a censoring - you know the difference between censoring and clarify. BDSM is part of sexual play and also part of AChat. It always will be a part here in forum. Many like it and some more are interested to learn about.

All we're asking for are ideas to clarify if a thread is about vanilla or kinky play. We don't want to exclude it.

You offered one idea: An own board. This we're talking about too, but today we can't say if it's possible. Also it's not always easy to differ if a thread would belong to BDSM or to another board. But the forum has to stay simple.

You're talking about you dirty people. Well... yes, you are. As all other who love sex too. Woody Allen once said "Is sex dirty? Yes...if it's done right" ;)

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on August 06, 2013, 02:43:08 PM
Hey Blue, we are not trying to  cen-s-or   anything.  We were trying to think of ways that the extreme kinks or fetishes could be identified in a warning...  so readers could be pre-warned and choose not to read it if they thought it too much for them.

We want all people of all orientations & tastes, ( TOS & laws permitting ) to enjoy Forum.  

So we are trying to open up the discussion , to say, any stories or topics with an exclamation mark  may well be a topic to avoid if you are easily offended or could bring up bad memories.

All the mods believe in free speech and we don't want any members to be afraid to read any topics in case there is a post hidden in there that could give them bad memories or remind them of  any RL experiences, that they have put behind them.

We are all valued members and each of us apart of this village.   As forum grows,  we obviously want to maintain the friendly and fun atmosphere.  I hope this goes some way in trying to explain the thoughts behind the exclamation marks and warnings.

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Momma_andrea on August 06, 2013, 07:48:30 PM
But who decides whether it is extreme?  I can't stand Bukkake or gangbangs, is that extreme? To some it would not be.
Then there are many facets of BDSM that I don't like; piercing, knives, blood or toilet play of any kind. Who will protect me from that?

I will. I peruse the forum on my guard and at my own risk.  Just like I put up with the morons who call me mommy and want incest games.

 

So go ahead, segregate us.

  :P
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: mrsexlover on August 06, 2013, 09:14:10 PM
I like Mrsexlovers banner -   just a couple of suggestions ..   I think BDSM   should be changed to  AN  EXTREME    so it covers all kinks and fetishes  and the writing should be in bright red -  the international colour for danger or warning .. 

Great work, Martin   ;D

updated banner

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7317/9453775907_757d43c5e4_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on August 06, 2013, 11:09:07 PM
thanks for the updated "Extreme" banner with red writing Martin
and they say we don't do irony!
 ;)
.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on August 07, 2013, 01:37:32 AM
@ Andrea
Quote
But who decides whether it is extreme?  I can't stand Bukkake or gangbangs, is that extreme? To some it would not be.
Then there are many facets of BDSM that I don't like; piercing, knives, blood or toilet play of any kind. Who will protect me from that?

The few members, who are intersted in bukkake, gangbang, blood or toilet play... either just posted once or then and when (I remember some asked for pissing and in the past we had one blood play). It's not a big theme. But of course, there are people loving it and we will get threads including it.

This is the discussion now. We're asking everyone, when there should be a sign/warning and when it might be silly. I'm surprised you feel offended, as you posted a warning in your age play story (Little Amy) after talking to us.

"Authors note - this is an age play story. If it offends you, don't read. Both characters are of legal age and consent. It is bedroom play, period."

This is exactly what we're talking about now, asking for your ideas and opinions.

In many other sex forums BDSM has an own board - I never noticed there are complaints about it. We don't have an own board, but having a symbol in the title makes it easier to notice what the thread is about - for those not liking it, but also for those loving it.

jcm started an own thread for bdsm pics - does somebody feel to be segregated? I think it was a great idea - those who love it, have an own thread. Those who are curious and want to know more, also know where to look. Those not liking it, don't have to look. Simple but effective.
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Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 07, 2013, 02:15:52 AM
So go ahead, segregate us.

we are not trying to segregate people who are into BDSM or other extreme sex play (till tyhey don't go over AChat TOS, of course!), on contrary! we are tring to provide a new service who will grent people who don't like extreme things to avoid those thread they don't want to read! the fact is some people here can have some bad experience and certain subject can bring worst memories in their mind and we don't want it.

Just to put an example.....you weren't here at that time, when Chienlubrick was usually around (not so much, to tell the true!) and she don't usually join us in the B&G or other similar thread. When she was young, she had experiment many faces of BDSM (some extreme, from what she said!) and now that past is over but stay in her mind as a not so happy period......i had try to make her join us and you know what!? it was during a party in the Ice House! Of course, i have done all to avoid her to get hurt by bad memories, don't involving her in BDSM play! and you know what!? she must go away for a businness trip while we are having the party and wrote me i can "use" her while she was away.....well, i don't have done it.....i found a way to let her stay in the story but at the same time i was able to wait till she's back to continue our line!
At last, i was able to finally make her join as and have her done it in a pleasent why and without hurting her feeling, my primary purpouse!, and give her a good time with us, even if it was in a "place" she will never come to post for obvious reason.

This is what we are worried about.....for users who have experience like this or of abuse.....and we know there are, Andrea....and we don't want they found out it suddenly, in the middle of reading a story or a post! is this wrong!? i don't think.....and hope this is for you the proof we don't wont to segregate people, but make them all be part of the fun, just we want to do in the right way, that's all!


And about what is extreme....yes, for some maybe gangbang or bukkake can be as for others no, it change from user to user, and i agree with you, this is not we all can know. I echo Brandy, if you or Blue have a better solution, please.....share it with us! We are mods, but not perfect....this is why we ask always for your opinion and help.....and we are doing it this time too!

HB
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Momma_andrea on August 07, 2013, 04:17:42 AM
@ Andrea
Quote
But who decides whether it is extreme?  I can't stand Bukkake or gangbangs, is that extreme? To some it would not be.
Then there are many facets of BDSM that I don't like; piercing, knives, blood or toilet play of any kind. Who will protect me from that?

The few members, who are intersted in bukkake, gangbang, blood or toilet play... either just posted once or then and when (I remember some asked for pissing and in the past we had one blood play). It's not a big theme. But of course, there are people loving it and we will get threads including it.

This is the discussion now. We're asking everyone, when there should be a sign/warning and when it might be silly. I'm surprised you feel offended, as you posted a warning in your age play story (Little Amy) after talking to us.

"Authors note - this is an age play story. If it offends you, don't read. Both characters are of legal age and consent. It is bedroom play, period."

This is exactly what we're talking about now, asking for your ideas and opinions.

In many other sex forums BDSM has an own board - I never noticed there are complaints about it. We don't have an own board, but having a symbol in the title makes it easier to notice what the thread is about - for those not liking it, but also for those loving it.

jcm started an own thread for bdsm pics - does somebody feel to be segregated? I think it was a great idea - those who love it, have an own thread. Those who are curious and want to know more, also know where to look. Those not liking it, don't have to look. Simple but effective.
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I feel offended not by the sign but by the fact that you will then lump all kinks together, I think that is what Blue and I are trying to convey.
Its like those people that find out you like BDSM, "oh well thats all you like" No, I like Vanilla too. AND I don't like everything in BDSM, in fact some of it disturbs me just as BDSM in general disturbs Vanillas
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Momma_andrea on August 07, 2013, 04:40:06 AM
Dear Hentaiboy,

Sometimes I play "Devil's Advocate" in a discussion. Please calm down. (to many exclamation points)  :P

but on first reading of this topic, it seemed like you were going to create a new section to the forum and were going to toss us "Kinks" into it like a Jewish Ghetto.
But I still do not like the idea of a generic sign. It should convey what the particular Kink is, which is now what I think most people are visualizing, Because all BDSM is not the same.

With love and affection,
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 07, 2013, 04:46:01 AM
I understand your point, Andrea, but trust me, we are not putting an etiquette on people with this (if this is what did you think, i swear you are wrong!) but we just want to put under attention of the readers a thread who can have a sensible subject, nothing more. I know not all the kinky are the same, but at the moment we don't have a better way to do it and this is why we are talking about this with you. I'm really sorry if some of our words offend you or Blue....not our intention!

Of course, if you and Blue have a good idea, i will very happy to listen at it and propose it to dev-team, if it's something we mods can't do by our own. And no, i don't want a section just for BDSM, Lover was putting out an example he saw somewhere else.


P.S. the esclamation point i use are just to point readers attention, i'm calm as always.....  ;)
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Pafe on August 07, 2013, 04:49:14 AM

Hiya's...

   I seem to have stirred things up with my post in the ECUADOR:  WTF!? topic, which I am now regretting.  PLEASE, Please, please... do not change the Forum.  Please do not label anything.  Please do not cen-sor or segregate anyone or anyone's post.  Which is what any sort of labeling will do.

   Bluedenim is right... if we label one thing, we have to label everything, and once it gets going, where will it stop?  The Forum has functioned very well without any sort of catagorizing of anyone's postings, so there's no need to change anything. 

   I sincerely was not trying to change the way anyone posts here, I was just simply stating a fact about one person that I know of.  I want to apologize to the Forum for any misunderstandings, we're just a couple of old ladies who are stuck in our ways, and I'm sure there are people who find our behavior and our lifestyle offensive.  The needs, wants and desires of the many out weigh the needs, wants and desires of the few... or the one, so please allow the Forum to go on as it has, without labels of any kind.  Thank you.

   Why not put it to a vote and let the Forum Village members decide if there should be labels on the postings.  I for one will vote "no".


Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe

   
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 07, 2013, 07:22:22 AM
   I seem to have stirred things up with my post in the ECUADOR:  WTF!? topic, which I am now regretting.  PLEASE, Please, please... do not change the Forum.  Please do not label anything.  Please do not cen-sor or segregate anyone or anyone's post.  Which is what any sort of labeling will do.

Lady Pafe, it's not your fault, in no way.......you just give a situation to think about! i want to apologize with all of you, my forum's friends, wasn't our intention to create some discrimination, all we want to do is to create a way to help all of us to enjoy more the forum!

We can have a poll, as Lady Pafe suggest, and if the majority don't like to have this "warning advice", i'll promisre all will back to how it will be.....as i said before, we mods are not perfect (even someone say the contrary!  :D) and this is the reason we ask for your help, when we are not sure about our decision. We like to have the support of all the forum community, as we try to do our best to bring new funny stuff to life and, of course, help who is in need......i don't know how many time i tell this, but i like to consider you all as a big second family for me!

And James.....you hit the whole point, my friend! Kinky sex play tickle our curiosity but it can happen we don't like all of them: and yes, i think it's up to an artist or a writer to add a specific warning to his works....of course this will be the perfect solution, i think.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on August 07, 2013, 09:26:58 AM

Pafe,
Thank you for your understanding. Two old Ladies? Surely not, you are as young as Achat makes you feel. I've even started looking at boudoir shoes myself, lol.
I have never tried to thrust what I like down anyone's throat and when I played out scenarios with Miss Christy it was made clear to all what they were about.
I think if we try and segregate we alienate.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on August 07, 2013, 09:58:24 AM

Two old Ladies?

never had seen pafe and Satoire as old....just as two wonderful ladies!  :D




I think if we try and segregate we alienate.


I think we all agree on this, little Blue......
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on August 07, 2013, 02:06:00 PM
I don't want to alienate anyone nor make them feel dirty , nor ashamed of their likes or dislikes.   If a person is interested in a certain fettish, then I want the Forum to be informative and helpful and for members to explore this new territory.

Janine's dungeon was and still is  a  great source of information for me. And members always answered my questions and tolerated my vanillaness.  ;D

I don't want people to feel segregated either.

The best explanation perhaps I can give is a classic example  ...  way back when the fantasy bar - The Achat Bar & Grill  affectionately known as the AB&G  was first forming and establishing itself, a story line was born which was fun to be involved in... 

to cut along story short,  Bear found himself bound and a well known game in the BDSM world of tease & deny began...  to some it was just part of their kink, to others it was shocking abuse.... 

Anyway, it quickly came apparent that  Vanilla's did not get it and were not posting any more, or the vanilla's who did  post, did not see the seriousness that members of the kink gave this game..  and it seemed both sides were being offended, without meaning to.

ChristinaK and I realized this situation luckily and found a happy compromise  and a BDSM dungeon  The Ice House was created.

Vanilla's and BDSM members were both catered for and I believe is the reason both Topics are so successful. 

 Tangoracer &  I  have purposefully kept The Ice House for members who enjoy the BDSM kink and to own a dungeon in there is by invite only.  The story lines and topics do cross over but essentially everyone knows the kind of play in the Ice House is dungeon related.

The AB&G tends to be the vanilla and more naughty soft BDSM play - The Ice House caters for the more severe play.

As forum is growing, we mods are lucky in that most members who recognize that  their posts or stories could cause offence have volunteered to contact us and have posted a relevant warning, whether that be BDSM or Age Play and we are grateful  that such members are respectful and sensitive to others.

As such,  we would like this to continue and formalize this thoughtfulness.   

The idea was to use an exclamation mark and  perhaps  Mrsexlover's  banner  to high light to members that here is a post or Topic or story line that could cause offence. Read on at your own discretion  or don't at all. 

This was the basis for starting this topic and if any members feel they are being segregated or made to feel dirty, then that was never our intention and I would like to offer my sincere apologies if we offended you or made you feel  belittled in anyway -  that includes members of the BDSM kink and Vanilla's alike.

We would like equal respect be shown to all Kinks, Fetishes & Vanilla's  ( TOS & Laws permitting, ie We will not tolerate peadophilia or beastiality but I think most know that )

Your views are sought therefore on the exclamation mark and warning banner &  warning captions preceding the relevant posts and to ensure all tastes can be catered for without losing members.

It is not a personal attack on our kink members, its how best we can all work together. 

Our Forum Village is the best in the world and we wish for that to continue.  Your views  are appreciated.

So I will post a question for voting ...  the decision of our members will decide how you wish us to identify such posts or not.   I just need to post a question that  adequately describes what we are trying to do.  Bear with me  :)

ok, here it is ...

Should Extreme sexual type play be identified (   !  -  Exclamation Mark  /  Banner / Warning Caption ) to warn readers of its content ?

 YES. IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO WARN READERS  THE POST MAY HAVE CONTENT THAT COULD CAUSE OFFENCE

 NO,  THERE IS NO NEED FOR ANY WARNINGS AT ALL

 I DON'T REALLY CARE EITHER WAY.

Definition of Extreme Pornagraphic play  -    graphically portraying scenes of degradation, sexual violence, torture, murder, necrophilia or bestiality for the purposes of sexual arousal. 
 
NB -  the latter 2 -  necrophilia and bestiality are against TOS and will not be tolerated.

Depending on the story line,  murder will be judged on its merit.

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Momma_andrea on August 07, 2013, 03:10:17 PM
DANGER, WILL ROBINSON
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on August 08, 2013, 01:45:23 AM
"You are leaving the secure sector now!"
  ;)

I'm sure everyone knows or least believes all we want to have is a place, everyone is feeling welcome. There is enough room for all kinds of sex play. We are a growing village and each of us will have his own house and we also have our market place, zoo and bar to meet and have fun together.

I also say, the limits between kinky and vanilla sex are blurred. In special mood  I also like to tie or be tied for example. Most of us have tried the bdsm poses, even if it was just for fun and curiousity. Vice versa too - as Andrea said, bdsm lovers also play vanilla.

What is our intention? We are asking for a signpost. You're standing on a crossroad and are looking for bdsm - you look and know "ah, this house is for bdsm lovers" or "ok, this house is for vanilla friends".

The "Fantasies and Fetishes" board is a good board for it of course. And I also want to have more boards including it - "Erotic Stories" has several threads including bdsm and I don't want to move them. They are erotic stories and belong to this board. Poses for bdsm, added poses and also existing ones, belong to "Discussions about sex" and have to stay there.

All we want is everyone knowing with one view "this is (boring ;) ) vanilla, this is exciting bdsm, or least harder sex.

The message icon is a first idea - it's easy to add to new and existing topics and everyone can use it. Perhaps it's enough - perhaps we get more/better ideas.
To make this forum a home for everyone.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: sexilicious on August 08, 2013, 04:27:49 AM
Just a few thoughts on this topic.

I can see both points in this discussion. Then again I always try to see both sides of the story as best as I can.

On one hand, Blue and Andrea are looking more at the labeling that would occur to the forum. I can see the downfall in that. As we all know the Ice House and AB&G are two of the most hottest topics in the forum. If we start labeling would we then have to stop the natural flow of some of the little things we do in these places because we "might" offend others? I know my mind can go here there and yonder and if it flows why stop and post elsewhere.

Also another thing that I know from work is that the more signs there are the less likely the people will read them. If we start putting up signs all over due to the fetish we want. People will stop seeing the warning sign especially for those of us who are used to going to those areas. Say one day we go to an area that contained some lets say blood play since it was brought up. The sign would do nothing for us and we would end up freaked out, shocked, or whatever the case might be.

On the other hand, having something to make the people aware of the content is good. In a lot of stories out on the web, they will post some of the content that can be found in that story. Whether it helps people to find certain stories or to warn the readers that hey this might not be the story you want to read.

A lot of times people will read the beginning and see if it is something they want to read and if it doesn't take hold and make them read more they stop. So suggestion. Maybe when there is any kind of play. Just a quick jot at the beginning stating what could be found. Can even give a vanilla one too. So say Martin and I were playing and I ended up just jumping on him and having fun nothing kinky just plain vanilla. We could say VANILLA at the top before out post. Other times Tango has tied up HB just to have fun but that was it so they could put ROPE BONDAGE at the top of theirs. This way people will know the content before reading and can decide if they want to read the loving going on between the individuals in this play.

Every person on here has a different past, so each person has a different mind function on what is SAFE. Whether on forum or even on GAME, people tend to feel unsafe at times. They will deal with it differently. Some could clam up and stop talking, maybe they disappear offline, or whatever the case may be because they are no longer safe. They have felt threatened or brought up HUGE reminders of their past. I know me sometimes once I read some things or if a certain topic is brought up it is so hard for me to talk or deal with it cause it isn't easy.

The main thing everyone needs to remember is that each one of us is unique and different. We are all special. Whatever the case may be for the forum in the future. The biggest thing we can do is treat one another with as much love and encouragement as we can. This forum is a family so we look out for one another. Someone gets hurt we will be there if they let us. Someone has good news, we listen and celebrate. OK so probably sidetracked off the main point a couple times but that is me lol my mind always jumps.

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Covems on August 08, 2013, 05:10:41 AM


(http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w31/Covems/AChat/nudesign01_zps80f3fbc0.png)


I've avoided posting in this discussion, perferring to soak in everyone's view points on the matter.

Everyone makes a solid point.  But I have to agree with Pafe ( heheh... they are old ladies  ;D  )... the Forum has worked just fine the way it is... it's not broken... so let's not try and fix it... and  Miss Sexilicious is correct... I always ignore signs and just charge ahead...

We all have our own definition of "Extreme"... just as we all have our own definition of "Vanilla"...  my encounters with Eva for instance... some may consider a romp with Robot Girl to be "Extreme"... I however consider a romp with her to be very "vanilla".

My devil's advocate question is:  "Will there be labels or warnings in the Erotic Story Contest?" 
Second part to the question:  "Who will be the one to determine what warning goes on which story?"


I would like to say one thing on my little soap box... I would like to congratulate the Moderators for the great job they've been doing.  They saw something that concerned them, and instead of a knee jerk reaction, they brought it up for a discussion, and are now allowing us, the members of the Forum, to decide.  Thank you.


Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Pafe on August 08, 2013, 07:42:15 AM

Hiya's...


Pafe,
Thank you for your understanding. Two old Ladies? Surely not, you are as young as Achat makes you feel. I've even started looking at boudoir shoes myself, lol.


   Thank you Bluedenim... but right now this is making me feel like I'm 130 years old.


I have to agree with Pafe ( heheh... they are old ladies  ;D  )

   LOL!!!   I love you Covems... you can always make me laugh.

I would like to say one thing on my little soap box... I would like to congratulate the Moderators for the great job they've been doing.  They saw something that concerned them, and instead of a knee jerk reaction, they brought it up for a discussion, and are now allowing us, the members of the Forum, to decide.  Thank you.

   I want to second that.  Thank you moderators for everything you do here in our Village.

The main thing everyone needs to remember is that each one of us is unique and different. We are all special. Whatever the case may be for the forum in the future. The biggest thing we can do is treat one another with as much love and encouragement as we can. This forum is a family so we look out for one another. Someone gets hurt we will be there if they let us. Someone has good news, we listen and celebrate. OK so probably sidetracked off the main point a couple times but that is me lol my mind always jumps.

   Thank you Sexi... That's one of the many reasons I love this Forum Village and all of the people in it. 

   Just so you know... I voted:  No.


Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: jayc on August 08, 2013, 10:20:33 AM
Everybody has made valid points, and im with the people who say "why fix whats not broke" but i am fine with the simple eclamation point as a warning and we have labeled our serial story with one. and i would like to say i am proud of this forum amd its members, where being kind and civil to each other and inteligent debate is the norm.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on August 08, 2013, 01:32:28 PM

My devil's advocate question is:  "Will there be labels or warnings in the Erotic Story Contest?" 
Second part to the question:  "Who will be the one to determine what warning goes on which story?"

I would like to say one thing on my little soap box... I would like to congratulate the Moderators for the great job they've been doing.  They saw something that concerned them, and instead of a knee jerk reaction, they brought it up for a discussion, and are now allowing us, the members of the Forum, to decide.  Thank you.


Thank you Forum Members - it's why I love you all.

I think the message is coming through loud and clear - to leave things as they are   ;D

So be it,    :-*

Cove,

In answer to your  Devil questions...   its me - The Contest Manager -  with the tarnished halo   ;D ;D ;D ;D
As most of the mods usually enter the Contest, I am not able to discuss  other entrant's  stories with them.

But my rules are pretty simple -  No Necrophilia, no Paedophilia and no Bestiality.  Fantasy animals and hybrid humans are ok though eg Were wolves, Dragon girls   ;D    They simply would not make the contest and the author told and the reason why by PM.

There will not be any labels, it may give someone an unfair advantage or disadvantage.  If folks don't like, they wont vote for it.

Talking of which   .... I WANT MORE STORIES      ;D ;D ;D

 Forum  Home Page >  Organisations & Events >Contests > EROTIC CONTEST 5 NOW OPEN  http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2513.0.html     and

 Forum  Home Page >  Organisations & Events >Contests > EROTIC  STORY CONTEST  RULES  http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2509.0.html  

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on August 08, 2013, 03:06:52 PM
Cheap ?  ?  ?     Baby ...  you have no idea...  :P

I WANT A STORY OFF YOU TOO   ;D  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D    :-*
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on August 08, 2013, 03:21:55 PM
Thanks for all comments in this thread, big thanks for having a real discussion, no off topic and no personal attacks or insults. We like to accept your nice words about us mods - and you all made it easy to manage it. This is exactly what I love - a wonderful discussion, exchange of opinions and arguments and getting a common decision which everyone is accepting.

The poll will be open few days more - but atm the result is unique. I didn't vote because I started the topic, asking if we shoul do it or not. So if there won't be a big surprise, we won't have any labels.
Which also means, everyone may use the exclamation point or add a warning - but no one has to. Also the explamation mark is not a unique sign for bdsm or harder play - it can be used as you want.

We don't close the topic, perhaps just change name in near future. So we can use it to discuss different kinds of kinky/vanilla, even extreme sex (whatever this means).

Just one last word to our old ladies: I'm gald you're old - at least old enough to be in AChat ;)
No one, absolutely no one has to apologize for starting a discussion (and it wasn't you alone, I already told you). We are a big family and we have to be able (and we are) to talk about everything. 

I love my relatives here (ok, not as much as I love Marilyn :) ) and it's a nature's thing some will go and new will come. But today, I can't imagine to be without anyone of you.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Stone on August 09, 2013, 12:44:21 PM
I have read this topic several times and personally have no problem putting a warning sign, caption, or exclamation sign on a story that could cause offence on any story whether I am involved in it or not.  Jayc &  I have put an exclamation mark on our Tudor Rose story.

I am personally grateful that Tangoracer and ChrisinaK  did on their Ice House dungeon posts, because although I enjoy some BDSM  I knew what to expect when I continued to read. 

I don't think that there is a need to segregate anyone however,  and  a caption is enough to warn readers, no matter what section of the board the particular post is in.



Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on October 31, 2013, 01:39:38 AM

So, somebody tell me, is the issue decided and closed or are we going to be turning it over and over and over because the answer wasn't what one (or maybe more) person wanted?

If a post is from the Ice House/Dungeon it's not likely to be"vanilla", I thought we were all intelligent enough to grasp that.
If an erotic story has BDSM (what a lot of topics that 4-letter acronym seems to cover!) it tells us in the intro.
Don't post where you aren't supposed to seems to be a simple enough rule, but I've followed a link here from a new post, so I'm confused.

Have there been examples of "severe" or "hard" BDSM postings or writings turning up in unexpected places and complaints being raised or people upset? I must have missed them.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on October 31, 2013, 01:52:49 AM
i think the question is closed, Blue.....it's up to the one who post what to do
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on October 31, 2013, 05:03:31 AM
Forum have spoken, no one wanted to be segregated nor have official type  warning captions on their stories or posts.

Writers decide themselves what kind of warning to include.

You are right,  the topics mentioned are BDSM and therefore that kink is expected there already.

Things stay as they are.

Enjoy, I look forward to your stories.  ;D
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Pafe on October 31, 2013, 05:42:41 AM
Hiya's...

   Bluedenim, I believe this is closed.  Post what you want were you want.  Don't worry about labels.

Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Satoire on October 31, 2013, 06:02:44 AM
I am the one.  It's me.  This topic arose because of issues I've dealt with in my life.  Pafie was only looking out for me.
this issue is now resolved.  let the forum go on as it has.  it's not broken so don't try to fix it.  I know which topics I feel safe reading, and which ones I don't.  ... besides... Pafie runs interference for me.  :D
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Covems on October 31, 2013, 08:08:47 AM


... and I'm right behind Pafe... with that painted ass.
...running interference...
Pafe... wait up!
heheh


Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 01, 2013, 02:56:08 PM
I am the one.  It's me.  This topic arose because of issues I've dealt with in my life.  Pafie was only looking out for me.
this issue is now resolved.  let the forum go on as it has.  it's not broken so don't try to fix it.  I know which topics I feel safe reading, and which ones I don't.  ... besides... Pafie runs interference for me.  :D


Satoire ....... and Pafe too. there is no way I would ever want to do anything to upset anyone else by insensitivity. You deserve respect and I promise, you have mine.
I would do without my kinks rather than upset anyone else with what I get up to, but as we've all said, we know where the kinky stuff is going to be so if we don't want to read it we don't have to. I haven't actually written anything for many months now, for reasons some may know, and as far as I'm aware only the erotic stories have had any content and they are well signposted  if the titles don't give it away.
I didn't want to drag all this up again, I was prompted by a post by Lover in August, which I didn't see until last week. It wound me up.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on November 01, 2013, 03:23:15 PM
I think we should all join The House Of Gnomes -   Think its  Hyperion Homestead over at Lake Crystal  ;D ;D ;D  mmm  just trying to think who lives there now ... ::)


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_jC_4kQnpp4K_MzwS_EDcc1OT8MAslwogPIzACJEIaBv4jwLZAg)    (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyZeviiGnH7SEAzG_aV_YVc4n9AezZgrV1baNVKpQDMB4Mq2UmaQ)
                                                                       Me. Practicing for the next secret dates  ;D

I hear it's quite therapeutic ...  :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Pafe on November 01, 2013, 04:04:24 PM

Hiya's...

   Thank you Bluedenim, I think what we're saying here is to just be yourself.  That's the one we love.  And Covems... stay away from my ass.  lol

                    (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyZeviiGnH7SEAzG_aV_YVc4n9AezZgrV1baNVKpQDMB4Mq2UmaQ)

   I'm sending a gift to the House of Gnomes right now!!!   ;D  ;D  ;D

Thanks for letting me share,
Pafe
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Stone on November 01, 2013, 06:11:57 PM
Why do I feel something is going on here?  :-\

I'm watching you with squinty eyes.

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: mrsexlover on November 01, 2013, 09:52:53 PM
I think we should all join The House Of Gnomes -   Think its  Hyperion Homestead over at Lake Crystal  ;D ;D ;D  mmm  just trying to think who lives there now ... ::)


(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR_jC_4kQnpp4K_MzwS_EDcc1OT8MAslwogPIzACJEIaBv4jwLZAg)    (https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQyZeviiGnH7SEAzG_aV_YVc4n9AezZgrV1baNVKpQDMB4Mq2UmaQ)
                                                                       Me. Practicing for the next secret dates  ;D

I hear it's quite therapeutic ...  :-* :-* :-*

You better watch out with those gnomes, i heared they can change in a instant to horrible creatures

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7zc0sHtdl1r2r1ouo1_1280.jpg)
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Covems on November 02, 2013, 07:30:17 AM

You four have taken this WAY off topic!  I would suggest to post your Gnome things somewhere else.  That way you won't confuse any new people, because the Gnomes have nothing to do with confining Kinky or Vanilla topics... while watching Pafe's painted ass does.


Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on November 02, 2013, 10:11:26 AM
Well, I hope its not confined.  The House of Gnomes should be open to all. Maybe it could be a kink, or vanilla or a fetish. 

As long as we are all friends in the end   :-*

(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSsMEhZPwc00MMWc5Y-f3MjjBBcOzaY8xCEImdS6DgFodF4hwtO)
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on November 05, 2013, 03:16:58 AM
@ blue:
Quote
I didn't want to drag all this up again, I was prompted by a post by Lover in August, which I didn't see until last week. It wound me up.
Which post are you talking about?
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 05, 2013, 08:24:45 AM
We want to talk about ideas to confine BDSM/kinky play from vanilla play.

http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2663.0.html#new

In general: If you see an "!" exclamation point, you know the content is harder, including BDSM.

Lover,

It took me ages to find this again. It was from 5th August 2013 and it was showing as an unread post, so I clicked on the link and of course it took me to this thread where I then put my question.
I was sure we had sorted all of this out long before August this year and that is why I was so upset.

Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on November 05, 2013, 11:50:15 AM
It was this thread we were discussing everything and you also told your arguments.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on November 05, 2013, 12:13:27 PM
Guys, please....the forum spoke and nothing will change, so everything will stay as it is now: no advertise, no section just for BDSM or Vanilla.

So, i think we can close this discussion and the thread too....any objection!?
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 05, 2013, 01:08:56 PM

I'm sorry.

I don't know how it appeared as unread when I wrote so much on the original thread. I honestly thought it was a "new" post.[/color]
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on November 05, 2013, 03:29:16 PM
(http://markbreen.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IKEA-gnomes.jpg)

All together now ....   1   2   3 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NemkBVSnUt0 


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRP2kMYeNj05-b0UwU_GrDSSdO6Pw1xUQL75EVrgyYVdqm_tbqu)     (https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaP3hmSSLB56NrRhYvukpRL0fmrkJedO3kwruPKX98M1jgdQMnEA)

Bet its stuck in ya head!!   ::)

nuf said, i'm locking this.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Lover on November 05, 2013, 03:33:49 PM
It's ok blue, i just wondered what you were talking about. Sometimes it happens, you open a board and see a topic as "new", seems it's a bug of forum software.

We don't close it. A decision is made and we won't change now. But everyone may post questions, opinions and perhaps this can be a thread to explain different varieties of kinky play.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 05, 2013, 04:14:06 PM
(http://markbreen.ie/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/IKEA-gnomes.jpg)

All together now ....   1   2   3 

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NemkBVSnUt0 


(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRP2kMYeNj05-b0UwU_GrDSSdO6Pw1xUQL75EVrgyYVdqm_tbqu)     (https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRaP3hmSSLB56NrRhYvukpRL0fmrkJedO3kwruPKX98M1jgdQMnEA)

Bet its stuck in ya head!!   ::)


Brandy, I am really confused (serious) What was that video? I think it must be from some comedy show because I've never heard it before What is Spitting Image?


nuf said, i'm locking this.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Brandybee on November 05, 2013, 04:42:08 PM
It was a massive comedy puppet show in the UK some time back,  they were the spitting image (Hense the name ) of people they took the mickey out of ..   caricatures  of RL politicians, the Royals, the pope,  stereo typical foreigners  etc... and not politically correct at all.  No one was safe, everyone a target.

They spread love through laughter and sarcasm LOL   ..... " Oh throw a chicken in the air, stick a deckchair up your nose ..."
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 05, 2013, 05:08:15 PM

It sounds loads of fun, very satirical too.. I googled it and it was too long ago for me, but I'm gonna see if I can find some episodes on youtube
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 06, 2013, 12:35:23 AM
LOL! Great way to change the subject Brandy :) ;D That was a good laugh.

Blue, It's ok to have a voice. We, your friends love you. Next time something like this happens though, I will be forced to spank you.  :o ::)


I am sorry.
I apologise. :-[
I feel I have embarrassed my friends and look very foolish.
I will go to the woodshed now. :'( :'(
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: hentaiboy69 on November 06, 2013, 01:50:37 AM
LOL! Great way to change the subject Brandy :) ;D That was a good laugh.

Blue, It's ok to have a voice. We, your friends love you. Next time something like this happens though, I will be forced to spank you.  :o ::)


I am sorry.
I apologise. :-[
I feel I have embarrassed my friends and look very foolish.
I will go to the woodshed now. :'( :'(


no,. blue, you are going to be tied up on Tight's chair and everyone can slap your pretty bum!  ;D
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: terric on November 06, 2013, 06:13:22 AM
Gnome Sweet Gnome

(http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/ea/64/e8/ea64e8ae030e78fed2cce2ddea95121d.jpg)
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Pookie77 on November 06, 2013, 09:17:49 AM
OH NO!!!  HELP US FIND LARRY!!

(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2241431296/hF172924E/)


Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: bluedenim on November 06, 2013, 02:34:04 PM

Is this the first time he's gone missing, or is he a Gnomad?
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Pookie77 on November 06, 2013, 04:51:59 PM
(https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/2241431296/hF172924E/)


Gnot Larry.  He's a gnomic, gnormal gnome who has gnever shown the traits of a gnomad.  He's gnice but there are times when he get gnaughty, especially when he's gnear Smurfette.  They're both gnemophilists and past neolagnium even though Smurfette is thought of as gnesh, She has a way of making him gnervous and bringing out his gnutty side to meet her gneeds.
Title: Re: Confine kinky or vanilla topics - BDSM yes or no?
Post by: Stone on November 10, 2013, 04:49:09 AM
I think he may be at our place - Hyperion Homestead.  We have a miniature pub at the back of our place where all the Gnomes congregate.  Jayc & I are always finding gnomes in numerous places round the place mysteriously moved from where they belong. 
It's magic!