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Announcements => Upgrades and newly added features => Topic started by: HisGirlOnly on July 23, 2014, 03:03:16 PM

Title: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on July 23, 2014, 03:03:16 PM
has anyone found their achat chatlog since the new upate...... all chats allow you access to your chat files.... if ours have been deleted because people abused them... that's so not right   >:(
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: tangoracer on July 23, 2014, 03:05:50 PM
LOL   up till about an hour ago I didn't know there was a chat log here

I'm I think or what    :P
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: hentaiboy69 on July 23, 2014, 03:07:06 PM
yes, there was one, Dean.....

aaaanyway.....Lover is sending a pm to Susy to knopw about it, so be patiente
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Lover on July 23, 2014, 03:11:36 PM
I have sent a pm to admin. If we have more infos, well let you know.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 23, 2014, 03:22:59 PM
Thank you for letting  us know this  Hgo but  I would like to say
that  with all that a Achat is doing with changes  it  would be nice we
 are told by staff  of  Achat or  the  forum Moderators  ..

It is nice  to know you notice  it I would say  that  it is
staff and the moderators  responsibility notify us  members
with new update of changes to  not  confuses us and other asking is it true or not  ..
So with all  respected to Staff and Moderators 
let them bring out the news  to us members  first..


Thank you   for noticing
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on July 24, 2014, 01:40:14 AM
actually roxy, I made the post to try to find the chatlog.... not to notify anyone...

but either way I believe the forum is the venue to discuss what you notice that maybe other members might have a different opinion on , or mat not be aware of.

share info.... share ideas... support each other... that's how the forum works imo
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on July 24, 2014, 03:49:07 AM
oh shit! I see what you mean!

This is bad, bad, bad! They have effectively deleted my property!!!

If you find it, let me know, please.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 24, 2014, 10:13:14 AM
As I wrote  it would be nice  for  administrators to let  us  know  or to let the Moderators
 notify us  ....If  it was me I would  go ask a  moderator  fist  this is the 1st person I would ask
thinking they should know new procedures .I did not say it was wrong
I said  I would like to be notify by them first. this will be make it easy  from being asked 
many times from members asking over and over if its real or whats  going on
It will keep members calm and give us accredited information by staff . I hope you can understand my opine.

for me I like
Information coming  from  administrators to Moderators to members public
 following the chain of command.

  Have a nice  day.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Derek25 on July 24, 2014, 11:07:43 AM
its very simple who wants know is just select the achat icon and go in the same folder


There is file chatlog.txt

open it and read it.

Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: hentaiboy69 on July 24, 2014, 11:09:06 AM
Derek, now that file didn't exist.....or, anyway, was moved in to another location
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 24, 2014, 01:58:40 PM
Is there any word  as to why  it was removed or moved or are you still waiting to hear  from  administrators.
Thank you .
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: hentaiboy69 on July 24, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
we are waiting for ans answer, Roxxy......but i have an idea of it....
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on July 24, 2014, 04:48:34 PM

in case admin read this thread..............................

I want my chatlog back, and from what I'm hearing so does much of Achat.

I love the gifting changes

I think free users not being allowed to see kittys and peniszes will stop people from joining, Maybe at least a free trial period would have been better.



Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Brandybee on July 24, 2014, 06:23:39 PM
I have also received complaints from members about it being removed without warning and losing role plays, funny incidents etc...

It is also useful in disputes  / complaints when reporting incidents to Achat.  I find it concerning such a useful tool  has been removed. 

As soon as we receive an answer,  we will inform our Forum Villagers and members.

Achat,  Please can this facility be returned as soon as possible.  Thank you.

Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on July 24, 2014, 10:24:38 PM
They are deliberately deleting the file from the user's hard drive, as I have demonstrated by recreating the file and watching the program delete it again.

They might consider it as part of their game and that they will not update it any longer but it is my property and to delete the file is unconscionable.

Who knows what else these people are doing without informing us?
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 24, 2014, 11:27:11 PM
Do we really need a  chatlog ?   I would  just copy it and  save it
I think  I  heard some one say one time they can save all the  conversation  chat log
with another  programe . maybe not here...  And if it is to save us KBs  and  gives us something better
in the  game  I would not mind the  change  ... till we know more  from  them  I  think we  should
 have patience to  hear from  them...


To me this is the only  place I heard they  have a saved  chatllog.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Brandybee on July 25, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
As far as I am aware, I believe saved chat logs are common place in such things.

I know yahoo saves them.  I'm sure our members can name others and in similar games.

The facility is useful and good practice.  Writers use it for role plays they enjoyed, and as a back up to RP where they left off. 

It is also useful in any disputes to show who exactly said what.  It gives members some form of protection and things easily proved or disproved, especially past conversations when at first it may not seem significant but later it may become relevant.
It is useful when reporting abuse or young users to Achat. 

It should be returned as soon as possible. 

Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 25, 2014, 12:09:20 AM
the chat log is part of there  Program. would be  nice they give it back
for the ones that need it
To me it don't matter  I can screen save the chat if it is important ,
if not what is the use for it  just more space on  my hard drive  

so with it or with out it  don't matter to me .
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on July 25, 2014, 12:15:43 AM
It is a plain text file, it takes up very little space, you could play for years and it would take up less space than one image file (lol, less than one of your saved screen files).
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 25, 2014, 12:19:12 AM
It is useful when reporting abuse or young users to Achat. 


for this they have the  Support button

and

recommended they add a flag button to report all  abuse  on the spot and the chat be send to
administrators  so there will  no she  he said  it  would  and no  one can  change  the tex- chat  
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on July 25, 2014, 01:47:47 AM
err... that exists already. Have you never seen the ! for reporting misuse, to the right of the chat box?
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on July 25, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
Posted by: FoxyRoxxy

Do we really need a  chatlog ?   I would  just copy it and  save it


on some OS there is no way to copy your achat convos...... cntl +v will allow you to paste but cntl +c wont allow u to copy.

besides every other chat i''ve seen on net has allowed you a copy of your chat history

I want mine back  :-[ and a lot of members in achat do to




 
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 25, 2014, 11:12:34 AM
I am sure  they have a good reason  Hgo ..

 for me I  dont have a chat log on the other  game

only  on  massanger   ..



And  Susan  I had  posted   a  flag button  on the other  topic  before  I know it
 this to me is a  basic  one   ...
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Lover on July 25, 2014, 03:40:32 PM
It was removed because of higher level of data protection (your partners didn't agree to save all conversations with them). Maybe we get it back with some changes, as weve asked for it.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on July 25, 2014, 03:55:20 PM

OMG are they serious????

yahoo , skype, chatandgo................... all have chatlogs

sounds to me like achat got scared by someone, coz thats gotta be one of the lamest cop outs ever



Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on July 25, 2014, 03:58:23 PM
Lame? Idifuckingotic, I would say.

We're talking about two avatars talking to each other.

The gnomes in Everquest have a chatlog.

I don't know about the world going down the tubes but the world of Achat certainly is.

If I am going to have to rely on conversations to prove anything in court then I want to be the custodian of those records (of  MY conversations) and not have to rely on some hick outfit that has no concern for its paying customers.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Tom_Hardy on July 25, 2014, 05:08:12 PM
I'd like it back. Simple as that
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Stone on July 25, 2014, 06:22:22 PM
I agree the chat log should be returned as soon as possible. It's proof when dip sticks attack you for no reason. 
It's our protection against being misquoted.
It can also act as a deterrent for abusive members to behave.

In all the time I have been here I have only heard of one person who has abused it.

It also provides entertainment  whether in reruns of a good room  or edited with names taken out in  the topic  " Worst Chat Up"

I vote  YES.   The pros for, far outweighs the cons against.

Please  can we have our chat log back.

Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: alye on July 25, 2014, 09:31:14 PM
I would like my chatlog back too  :(
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: AusWoody on July 25, 2014, 11:27:26 PM
Personally I take it as  theft of my property, what I type  in a chat is  my property  it isn't  something of value to any one else just myself, yes brandy is correct  as a writer  I do my best work when interacting with another in role-play, and have  used these  chats as  the basis of many stories.

you may not have noticed that you cannot even copy a live chat now  as they have  removed that function as well, so the only way  is now the  storage hungry screenshots  and they can only  grab such a small  window of chat it  would  take  40 or 50  to capture a full chat.

I have been chatting online  for 20+ years now  and NEVER had  this situation  before  every IRC  program has the ability to review  your chat logs, for whatever reason you choose  as it is YOUR property, it is NOT Achat's  to  remove  or  delete.

I am not asking it to be replaced  I am DEMANDING it be replaced IMMEDIATLY.

yes i'm sure there are ppl out there  who couldn't give a shit about this feature, and good luck to them, they prolly don't  adjust the  treble and bass on their sound systems  either  or  the  picture on their TV, their apathy is not the issue here, some of us  require  the features  WE PAID FOR when we subscribed  as  members. My subscription is a contract  between  the  provider  (Achat) and user (AusWoody). They are in breach of a contract  and  are liable to be sued by the members over this..

Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Nat33 on July 26, 2014, 01:32:50 AM
Hi,
Voted YES for all the reasons mentioned above and I like reread passages that I spent with nice people.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Lover on July 26, 2014, 03:38:32 AM
@ Woody:
Quote
yes i'm sure there are ppl out there  who couldn't give a shit about this feature, and good luck to them, they prolly don't  adjust the  treble and bass on their sound systems  either  or  the  picture on their TV, their apathy is not the issue here, some of us  require  the features  WE PAID FOR when we subscribed  as  members. My subscription is a contract  between  the  provider  (Achat) and user (AusWoody). They are in breach of a contract  and  are liable to be sued by the members over this..

If some people dont need the chatlog, it doesnt mean they are apathetic. I know many members, who never knew about this function. We had and still have a lot of request where to get it - when by accident they notice there is a chatlog.
Also, as far as i can see, the chatlog is NOT part of the contract. I cant find it in the contract, nor in TOS.

Nevertheless, the chatlog is a good and important function and i also want it back. For myself, but also for my "job" as mod. We have sent another request to A-Team and i think we made some valid points and arguments.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Brandybee on July 26, 2014, 05:13:15 AM
Good news from Achat guys and gals,  the intention is to return the chatlog with some changes - 

A couple under review is 

1. only premium members can use it
2. the user will have to switch it on using a checkbox

There will be some changes in the TOS in regard to it.

We have not been made aware  of the time line for it's reinstatement. 

Are you able to clarify this Achat?
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 26, 2014, 08:33:19 AM
I hope they will add the time and date on this new changes  this will be helpful.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on July 26, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
ooooooo great news... hope it's soon  :D

Achat suddenly detests it's free users doesn't it.... they are aware of course that most if not all of it's premium users were free users on the first day... shouldn't they be allowed to play, for at least a short time frame without so many restrictions?
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Lover on July 26, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
I don't see they are detesting free users. All they are doing now is trying to avoid to get into troubles bc of young users. A side effect will be, they get more paying members (that's what I think they believe).
Free users still can check the game - the chat and room too. They can check free non-sexual poses and also try sex poses. Though it might be sillyto play, when you just see pixels lol...

I repeat demand that now it's absolutely necessary to add more ways to buy a subscription.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: FoxyRoxxy on July 26, 2014, 11:49:45 PM


yes i'm sure there are ppl out there  who couldn't give a shit about this feature, and good luck to them, they prolly don't  adjust the  treble and bass on their sound systems  either  or  the  picture on their TV, their apathy is not the issue here, some of us  require  the features  WE PAID FOR when we subscribed  as  members. My subscription is a contract  between  the  provider  (Achat) and user (AusWoody). They are in breach of a contract  and  are liable to be sued by the members over this..





I feel that  all  members of Achat  every one  can have  a opine as  how they feel about it .
If they like it,  don't  like it   or don't  matter  it  really is there own opine  they may have a reason .I dont understand  what  apathy   
 has to do with  there opine  on it ....I am sure every one has a reason  for what they choice
I dont agree on how you  said  .....   

there are ppl out there  who couldn't give a shit about this feature

 ( They prolly don't  adjust the  treble and bass on their sound systems  either  or  the  picture on their TV, their apathy is not the issue her )

    this sounds like you are  insulting  them  because of a opine they made.

To me it  did not matter but I was not Against It  . I see both  good  and also I see some of the  down sides  ..
I would of  waited  for  Administrator to  inform us  before jumping the gun on them....


I would like to say  also that I don't give any one Permission to use my  name  from the Achat  logg outside of Achat  and the  Achat forum

it would only be  to the TOS  if they  like to use it ....

I think that the  reason the take it was for  liability  reasons  only to adjustedā€¯ it

now that its back over and  done .
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on July 27, 2014, 08:00:15 AM
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now that its back over and  done

??
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: TG_Chaser on July 29, 2014, 09:20:53 AM
I think she's saying that she'd like the TOS to have a rule about people publishing your conversations somewhere without your consent. Most of us believe that's just ethics but if it was written into the TOS achat could outright ban or suspend accounts of people who blog like a certain user.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Lover on July 30, 2014, 05:07:33 PM
Good news

Today we are informed, the chatlog will be back in few days :) They listened to us and our arguments, accepted them and now are working to activate it with one of the next updates. So it's a success of forum!
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on August 04, 2014, 02:18:58 AM
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

 :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Brandybee on August 07, 2014, 04:53:36 PM
We''ve just received word  -   The Chatlog is back.

YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Thank you Achat.
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on August 07, 2014, 06:05:16 PM


Great
but
ummm where is it?


Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Brandybee on August 07, 2014, 06:28:25 PM
Glad you said that, I cant find it either lol.

I'll ask for directions  ;D
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: HisGirlOnly on August 08, 2014, 01:16:30 AM
ok got it
but we have to activate it under music
not really obvious place to put that
but ty achat :) at least its back
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Brandybee on August 08, 2014, 01:21:16 AM
Yay,  well found HGO.  I was looking in all the old places.

Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: jingerbird on August 08, 2014, 01:51:26 AM
Woo Hoo Its back...missed it so much  :)
Title: Re: Chatlog
Post by: Concerto on August 08, 2014, 05:40:40 AM
And, my god, I don't believe it, they actually listened for a change and added a time stamp.