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In my opinion, the current Moderators should be replaced in this forum . They are no longer objective , no longer neutral and after such a long time easily leached
Regards
icebox
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It’s easy to make such sweeping statements about people who volunteer and give their own valuable time and efforts to work for others.
“In your opinion, the Moderators should be replaced.”
Great. With who? You?
Someone who ran or who run a House here and nearly strangled the game by having an underground black list and then blasted forum with some extreme BDSM pics, and I don’t mean just a few here and there. You were posting numerous and excessive pics on a daily basis. So much so, Achat stepped in, not the Moderators.
By all means give your opinion but also explain your reasons and give a solution.
“They are no longer objective, no longer neutral and after such a long time easily leached”
What’s that mean?
“Objective?” Explain please. I have never seen anything but, and when someone has been moderated it’s usually explained in a PM and is because it’s against TOS or is directly insulting to someone.
“Neutral?” Explain please. Again, any debate has only been moderated when it became personal and nasty or directed to keep to topic.
“Easily leached?” Explain please.
My spouse is a Moderator here and cares for the game, the people and works endlessly behind the scenes to ensure people have a good experience in Achat.
He runs sweeps, assists in contests, tries to resolve issues between members and steps up to the plate to be counted in support of new ideas.
He supports Achat, Forum and The Square.
He is fair to people, listens to their gripes and resolves them to the best of his ability.
I see the hard work he and the other Moderators do behind the scenes and in my opinion, they succeed in most they try and do.
Check other forums, I think you will find the Moderators here will come out very favourably and this Forum is one of the most friendly you will find.
And I can also use colours and make my letters bigger too if I want to. I just choose not to make a poster out of my reply.
Regards
Stone.
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clink clink here is my two cents worth!
Having been associated with the mods over the last two years and one very closely
i know the sacrifices the mods make to support the game and forum,giving up time with
thier own loved one irl and virtual.
As far as being neutral and objective? that is an objective opinion based on your own bias
and whatdo you mean leached?i know english isnt your native tongue but leached means to migrate
'the colours leached from the t shirt to her lacy panties giving them a palepink hue'
No they are not perfect who is?
let he who has not sinned cast the first stone.
yes i am biased based on my own observations having been a victim of (IMO) unfair moderation
But when it comes down to it its a dirty job and someone has to do it, Oli you want to take upa position and show us all how it should be done??
I for one am gratefull for the work and effort the mods do to make this place a better place to be
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of course people volunteer and give their own valuable time and efforts, but they signed up for the position and this means, even if voluntarely , the job has to be done in a proper and serious way.
life can get tough sometimes and priorities shift but that also means , if there isnt enough time anymore to fulfill the obligations, maybe some backup or a resignation should be considered.
I m probably not the only one who noticed that the current Moderators seem to be occupied in RL and not very present for quite some time now, thats no speculation, its a fact.
And to quote a fellow forum member :
yes i am biased based on my own observations having been a victim of (IMO) unfair moderation
maybe the observation Oli made isnt far off from the truth, maybe some might even feel mistreated as well.
I agree that the post might need some explanation to emphasise the statement but theres no need to make this a personal vendetta against another forum/achat user who stated a plain and simple observation nor should it be seen as a personal attack towards a forum Moderator.
everyone should be mature enough to be able to lead an efficient discussion, share personal experiences and thoughts, because in my opinion thats the purpose of a forum
keep the emotional baggage aside and we might accomplish something here
leach (lēch)
v. leached, leach·ing, leach·es
v.tr. To empty; drain
and no, I didnt choose the colour and size to make a poster out of my reply ... just the best size to read ;)
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I think that when people volunteer to give up their time for the benefit of the majority, they should be commended in every way. The problem is that they don't always remember that they are working on behalf of the community and for the benefit of that community.
When this is forgotten, it becomes something personal and it is at this point that the person should consider 'stepping down' from that position of responsibility. They are no longer objective and cannot meet the needs of the community as a whole.
This does not reflect on all Moderators that work on this forum but it appears that some have fallen victim to their position of power and should consider the needs of all and not just a few or the one....(almost a Star Trek quote..... Thank you Mr Spock).
Like some of you that have already commented before me, I am also 'biased on my own observations, having been a victim of (IMO) unfair moderation.' I vowed never to write in here again and only do so now because I believe strongly in the good of the forum.
Some of you may not think that this is an important topic, but when I can't write in my own way about things important to me, to have posts edited or removed and to have been moderated in any way, even though I have caused no offense, I no longer see the point in writing or the love of posting in the forum.
The worst thing in the world is to lose trust in anyone as trust is delicate and cannot be restored easily. But I find myself in this position and only hope that some time in the future, people will reconsider their positions and acknowledge that mistakes have been made, no matter how innocent or for the right reasons. Only then can we all move forward as a community to help and support each other.
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I can't really say much about this. Not knowing the internal politics of this Forum. And I don't want to know. I am here just to speak my ideas and thoughts, if they are moderated or edited then, ok, fine. As long as there is an explanation for doing so.
I also don't understand the term "easily leached" So again I can't say anything about that at this point.
But, replace the entire set of moderators. Why ? Who would replace them ? What would they do that would be better than who we have already ? I'll tell you. Nothing. In fact I believe it would be a disaster if all mods were removed and replaced. They have helped when I have technical troubles and they have always been nice when I have chatted to them. I certainly would have to think about coming here again to this Forum if they were removed. But, then that's not much of a big deal is it ?
I think its wrong to accuse them of what you are saying. Why are you so pissed off at them ?
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leach
verb
past tense: leached; past participle: leached
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Word the Day: HYPOCRITE and just so there is no confusion as to my meaning:
Hypocrite
(1) A person who engages in the same behaviors he condemns others for.
(2) A person who professes certain ideals, but fails to live up to them.
(3) A person who holds other people to higher standards than he holds himself
(4) someone who complains about something but finds themselves doing exactly the same thing
(5) A person who fails to practice what they preach
(6) Someone who hates it when people do certain things or talk shit about other people but they do it themselves.
This is NOT helpful to the Achat Community. It is a destructive thread rather than a constructive or helpful one. It offers no solution and no support and is strictly a bitch fest and a platform for grandstanding for those who think that somehow they function on a higher maturity level than others.
The fact that the moderators of this forum have ALLOWED this thread to remain visible to the entire Achat community is a testament to their fairness and acknowledgement of your "right" to post your opinion, not to mention their commitment to allowing everyone to have a 'voice' here.
The moderators are under no obligation to explain their actions to anyone. All changes made to the forum are at their sole discretion, not only to remain in accordance with Achat's terms and services, but to also maintain the appearance of propriety and perpetuate the fun spirit of which this game was intended. The fact that they take the time to try to explain their actions, whether or not it makes sense to you at the time, also shows their commitment and willingness to go beyond their duties and what is required of them.
This is a growing community. Perhaps a 5th Moderator would be helpful for everyone, or one or two sub-moderators. The solution isn't to rid this community of those who give freely of themselves or their time, but to offer suggestions on how we can help them do their job better. Happiness is important not just for the Achat community, but for the moderators as well.
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Icebox get back in your box and cool down
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Icebox get back in your box and cool down
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So many reactions of which people at all where are mods? Comes out, comes out where always you are
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chill peeps and have some fun instead yeah?
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The behavior of the mods... :
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Are you people insane!!
This place should be created for communication and enjoyment. In the last few weeks, I don't want to be here. Every post, every section someone is bitching and complaining. If I was a developer of Achat I woul not visit here either. Everywhere I look, people trying to tear apart people, items, body and anything else that may not go their way. Why can't we be adults and talk about things or tolerate changes for the good? I am 48 years old, maybe I am over the idea of pulling at every loose thread to see how far it will go. Maybe this GAME has gone to the younger generation where if it's not right for you, destroy it, set it a fire and go somewhere else because they don't know how to communicate or rebuild it. Or maybe I am past the honeymoon of Achat and just need to get out? What happens in here carries over to the game, and if you don't see it you are blind and only concerned about your space in the community. I want this place to be fun, this site to be adult and grow.The mods should be thanked, tolerated and respected for the job they do. Not pulled apart thread by thread to change it based on your or their opinion. Grow up now, because you only get so many trips around the sun and if your not careful you damage the ride. Respect your self, people around you and the community or at least your part of. If you don't agree with SOMEONE send them a Personal message. Don't agree with a post - tell them what and why, but use a little reasoning in yor comment. It's fine to disagree, but come on -- to act like a 10 year old about it?? It's up to you and no one can control you but you.
Thedge
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Before any further comments, I d like to ask all members to take a step back and let the ppl involved sort it out
we ll do our best to get all involved parties together and talk it out .
I apologize in advance to all ppl who are confused with whats going on right now , but would like to make everyone aware that
this ongoing discusion has an essential reason and its not to spoil someones fun but because to guarantee fun for everyone
TY Maron
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Now that ...was again very productive
ty for your input
we ll take it under consideration
TY Maron
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To everyone: as many knows, I became the silent mod of this forum because I lost most of the inrterest in the game due to several reason I don't have to explain and i wont explain.
Aaaaanyway......to all: shut the fuck mouth off!
To Icebox: if you have something to say to the mods, do it in private and not in public and about the editing Brandy made about the names in Tangoracer's post, that's a common line we all 4 agree. if therte are things to make public wich involved users ands which are not straightly related with acts against AChat TOS we always hide the names of the èpeople involved
So, there is no reason for revultion, dear Ice, and personally, any attack of this kind will no morte tollerate and it will be turned in the close of the thread and, if necessary, the deleting of any offensice post.
Especially consirdering the fact you wasn't so gentle to explain what is your problem with AChat Forum's mod in your first post......
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Ben says it way better than i can
“For the want of a nail the shoe was lost,
For the want of a shoe the horse was lost,
For the want of a horse the rider was lost,
For the want of a rider the battle was lost,
For the want of a battle the kingdom was lost,
And all for the want of a horseshoe-nail.”
― Benjamin Franklin
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Forgive me all, but im a bit slow...
I'm trying to figure out what this thread is all about...
It started with a (rightly or wrongly it doesnt matter) member's proposal-suggestion-accusation about the mods in this forum and the way they handle things in here...
Since then, a lot of members (related or unrelated to this matter) posted their opinions...but NOT ANY OF THE MODS...
Except (with a 2 weeks delay) a silent-and-with-lost-of-his-interest-in-the-forum mod (his own words) stood up and posted (to his honor)...
What he said? He asked all members to shut up! (I dont use his original words cause i know he is nice deep inside)...
He also tried to answer to another's member's post-complain. He or any of the rest mods never asked about the real reasons that lead to the initial suggestion...And as far as i know there was a proposal for a private discussion with the mods which never was accepted...and i also know its a lot more than just the complain about a moderation in a single post that everyone is focusing on...
They see the tree and not the forest...or at least thats what they choose to see...
I won't tell them how to do their job but what i would do if i (as a mod) had an accusation? (from one or many it doesnt matter).
I'd try to contact them or post asking what their real problem is and not what the other members make it look to be the one...
I'm not taking any sides...i'm not saying the thread is rightful or not...I have high respect for all members and all mods (even the silent ones).
But i think this thread is leading to a wrong direction and many things have been posted here (even jokes and famous quotes) but nothing about the real problem (and again its NOT about the moderation in the dating game), and mostly NOTHING from the mods to whom this is addressing to.
So, what I suggest is either closing this thread from the mods if they think it's not worthing to deal with it or to stand up and post their opinion and ask and discuss what THE REAL problem is about (if there is one, thats what both sides have to agree on).
In any way, this thread has to be related to the title it is given and ppl must post their own opinion about it and not posting personal accusations to each other.
Closing, I personally am against pseudo-Revolutions but i welcome new changes in things. Sometimes they are needed even if we cant see it.
TY for listening
A confused member
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OK a lot has been said.........lets take a deep breath, and get our community back on track. its time
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I admit to be biased in this matter due to foul games from one of the moderators here. I think it was a little less than 2 years ago and as it was I confided to the moderator about matters of the heart, my heart. Just shortly after, the moderator well knowingly acted in a directly unfavourable way to my love and me. I became very upset and told the moderator off in private, my god how i told her off. This only led to that the moderator ”was schocked” about my behaviour and i decided to leave Achat. I haven't been playing Achat for 2 years now and have spent my money in another game where i have been met more friendly. I believe the combination of the big influence by a moderator combined with bad moral is directly harmful to this game.
Tom_Hardy
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Seriously ?
I can't be out of the forum a little time without see fights when i come back ? lol
Here is what i think :
Some peoples primarize the point that mods didn't anwser ( exept hentai ( waves to him ) ) . In my opinion , they didn't anwser because there is no need to anwser to such pityful statement ( first post ) .
The only thing i would add is :
You don't like how the mods handle this forum ? Well nobody force you to stay in this forum .
But the mods of this forum are some of the nicer and fair ones i saw in any forum .
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I admit to be biased in this matter due to foul games from one of the moderators here. I think it was a little less than 2 years ago and as it was I confided to the moderator about matters of the heart, my heart. Just shortly after, the moderator well knowingly acted in a directly unfavourable way to my love and me. I became very upset and told the moderator off in private, my god how i told her off. This only led to that the moderator ”was schocked” about my behaviour and i decided to leave Achat. I haven't been playing Achat for 2 years now and have spent my money in another game where i have been met more friendly. I believe the combination of the big influence by a moderator combined with bad moral is directly harmful to this game.
Tom_Hardy
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...this has to be one of the funniest posts I've ever read here...
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Dear Covems, I'm glad I have made your life happier. But since you and I don't know eachother, since you have no first hand knowledge about what i mentioned, I think your comment is unnessecarily malicious and surely is based on hearsay from someone close to you.
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My inital sentence modified after moderation
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This has got to be more funner then day time soap opera & National Enquirer..
You are all acting like children , why don't you all grow up and behave like the adults
you all need to be moderated .
So I am here to help !
hahaha
Darn I wish I could seen all of Tom before it was mood . I hate when that is removed ...it kills the story of what is going on
I vote it should not be removed only if its a tos
I think it can all be fixed if people don't get butt hurt for nonsense
and Ice you just won the title of shit- starter one more time lol
to me you having followers is shocking :o
I really question their intelligence ...
and I even spelled it right ...
and for the houndred time no one makes a another person do what they dont want to do
You are all Adults and held accountable for your own actions
no one can make you go or stay you all have that choice do as you wish
Rukya
I agree to all you say....
You don't like how the mods handle this forum ? Well nobody force you to stay in this forum .
But the mods of this forum are some of the nicer and fair ones i saw in any forum .
dont forget they are funny to
I say its time to close this topic end of it ..
no reason to keep it open but we wait for Ice to start more Cra*
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Its the saddest thing in the world to me when people either cannot or simply refuse to acknowledge that we are all the same.. and that no one is better than or has the right to leave destruction in their wake.
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No ones the same Jaynie
we are all made to be our own individually
and yes your right
no one is better than
but if people keep repeating their actions over and over nothing will get settled I think its time we all get pasted this a solution to end it or keep going at it...
for me this topic has been going on to long ....
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... I see a lot of people have much to say, just nothing productive or intelligent :P
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Kettle!
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... I see a lot of people have much to say, just nothing productive or intelligent :P
Ohhh.. Kind of like how this whole thread was started with nothing productive or intelligent to say what so ever. Good job Ice.. *pats you on top of the head* :P
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... I see a lot of people have much to say, just nothing productive or intelligent :P
Ohhh.. Kind of like how this whole thread was started with nothing productive or intelligent to say what so ever. Good job Ice.. *pats you on top of the head* :P
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icebox is so mean to all....
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ROFL
You all make me laugh
if I am in the bath room taking a S*** I don't need paper I just come use this topic lol ;D
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Ms. FoxyRoxxy, you have me actually rolling on the floor and laughing over here.
On a more serious note though:
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if I am in the bath room taking a S*** I don't need paper I just come use this topic lol ;D
TMI !!! TMI !!! TMI !!!
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maybe you want to give me a hand coves hahaha
you are right Amy we should be kind =)
see coves I need a hand rofl
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Open Letter to all Achat Forum members
To bring some life, fun and movement into forum, the moderators of AchatTownSquare decided to perform a Meet&Greet Game, which has been a constant and valued part in forum before, executed by Square, advertised in Achat Forum.
On 06th March 2016 the draw of the MeetingPlace DatingGame 2016 took place, carried out and organized by Tangoracer and Jingerbird, moderators of AchatTownSquare, drawn couples have been posted shortly after.
As the odds would have it, one pairing in particular turned out to be a bit of a challenge for a fellow forum member, cause of private history.
Not comfortable with this pairing and in fear of jeopardizing his current relationship, said member made the decision to withdraw from the game and informed Tangoracer and Jingerbird, directors of the dating game about it.
Pros and Cons as well as possible solutions had been brought up and after some time and a very, admittedly, emotional discussion both parties came to the conclusion that the decision can be accepted.
Mentioned member posted his withdrawal in destined thread, the director of the game took the liberty to post his stand in for the now disengaged spot, so no one had to feel left out and every participant could have a pleasant date.
The issue was solved in private, none of the involved persons expected any further complications, the game could be executed as planned.
As it seems there was one person though, who wasn’t satisfied with this decision.
The post, couples and withdrawal presented in the forum thread for quite some time now, didn´t satisfy the spouse and forum mod of above mentioned member.
Said spouse, took it upon herself to delete the withdrawal and stand in post, modified the couples in adding a user who neither signed up in first place nor gave her agreement or permission to do so, and this without consulting the directors of the game.
The directors, the member and I, in the position as square moderator, couldn’t understand the changes been made and called for an urgent meeting, for two reasons ….
1. In our opinion the decision to change the post and bring someone in who isn’t even aware of it and didn’t sign up for the game at all, was made overhasty and in very emotional state of mind since the issue regarded not any member but her spouse.
2. To save the credibility of square, which is organizer of a lot of competition/events and therefor depends on the intact condition of integrity, games shouldn’t be changed like this.
Again, discussions have been led, Pros and cons weight out and as executing organizers, the directors and Square mods came to the conclusion to change the modified post back to its former state, to uphold credibility for any upcoming events.
This action although induced a dispute between Square mods and the Forum mod.
Jingerbird, who had entered the game as well, made a personal decision to step back as a director and participant in the game.
After a very emotional argument, the forum mod refused to talk about the issue any longer and sent a very patronizing pm to all forum mods to vent her anger.
Of course this is an understandable action, when feelings and pride are involved, but it doesn’t justify the way involved people have been addressed in it.
Over the next couple of days the tension between all parties grew, she declined the request for a talk to sort things out over and over again.
One forum moderator tried everything in his power to make a meeting between square and forum mods possible, but with no success and no feedback of the remaining two forum mods.
Days went by without any response or comment.
On 17th March the square mods contacted the Head of forum mods with an official request for an urgent meeting to present their point of view and to settle this issue once and for all because it was in our opinion very important to keep the collaboration between Square and Forum faultless.
To date, this meeting never took place.
As apprehended, the changes and modifications didn’t stay unnoticed and got questioned by other participants of the game who followed the thread constantly. Also a former participant got repeatedly called out referring to her withdrawal.
On 29th March this led to a follow-up thread in forum where another member dared to state his opinion and question the actions and reliability of forum moderators.
http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,4129.0.html
At that time, I still had the belief that every member has the right to state a personal opinion and an efficient discussion to improve forum, to propose suggestion would be appreciated in this community.
But I got taught better.
Instead of using this opportunity to share personal opinions and thoughts, to lead a mature discussion as the adults we all should be, the first reply already turned the thread in the direction of a personal vendetta against the author.
I don’t see the gain in stating a personal point of view in an aggressive way, instead of just sharing positive experiences and showing your unconditional support for the forum mods in a chorus of praise e.g. but to vent your anger on one person, who is in that case actually just a pawn sacrifice.
So much for maturity – sexual maturity doesn’t equal mental maturity as it seems.
For some this still might not make a lot of sense why this topic got out of hand or why this happening drove a wedge between square mods / forum mods and former “friends”.
Therefore I would like to lead the main focus back to objectiveness and neutrality and also to the question if there is the possibility that power can corrupt.
This forum never had a problem with judging and exposing others to the public community as former events have shown.
So I will take the same liberty and narrate the events which took place behind the curtain.
Personally I don’t care how anyone plays this game, everyone is here for different reasons, should make the best out of it and gain as much fun as possible. I couldn’t care less how many avatars one person needs to gain this fun factor on Achat.
But when it comes to the possible chance that this could be used as an advantage in forum and certain competitions, this possibility can put a few things into question named integrity and credibility.
To cut a long story short, a few square mods discovered that some members of square and forum shared the same IP address.
In plain words they are the SAME person.
This fact might seem unimportant to some but former events couldn’t stay unspoken any longer as one of them also happens to be a forum mod.
I´m aware that not all of us share the same knowledge how this works and what could possibly be a simple explanation, or that we share the same opinion on the word unique and coincidence.
I, for my part, couldn’t find the answer to why this coincidence was only a recurring event for the same members and for them only for quite some time.
A coincidence also doesn’t terminate the fact that it still is a matter of concern which should have been discussed, but instead it was not just declined, it was dismissed as hilarious and clearly out of our pay grade.
Offense is the best Defense ::)
Now everyone can build their own opinion about me, my fellow square mods and the forum mods.
Some might have a better insight now, some might share our concerns, some might not care at all or hold on to their opinion there is no need for changes and even share the opinion of the forum mods that it actually doesn’t matter at all.
This open letter was neither written in anger nor rage, but as a matter what is near to my heart.
The Square and its moderators gave their best to enrich this community with fun and entertainment and will still try everything in their power to do so in the future.
I for myself though, will listen to the advice of some people to “shut the fuck up” and jump Martins train leaving for fun town, there are enough people around who will keep you all entertained :D
As I´m no big fan of “farewell” posts, I will take this as my opportunity to say my goodbyes.
\m/ ROCK ON BITCHES \m/ …..it was a hell of a ride, thank you :D
XOXOXO Maron
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Before I forget, goodbye maron, it was nice to have met you
We decided not to post in this hilarious thread, cause it was full of funny, but wrong accuses. We don't have to ask wyh we are attacked and we don't have to respond to some untrue facts.
Though now I want to answer to some of your statements, cause it's easy to see that all you want to do is bringing troubles, packed in nice and oh so caring words.
True is, there has been a disput between a forum mod and mods of square about what you are saying. In the end of this discussion, the forum mod decided to let you do as you think it's best to do. Every arguments have been said, a decision has been made, so there was no more reason to talk about.
One forum moderator tried everything in his power to make a meeting between square and forum mods possible, but with no success and no feedback of the remaining two forum mods.
This is wrong. There never was a talk between us forum mods about this at this time.
On 17th March the square mods contacted the Head of forum mods...
Do you see the mistake? There is no head of mods, we're all equal. But maybe you don't spend much time here, so you don't know this. True is, I have got a pm, where I was asked if we can talk about this discussion. I think this is what you're talking about.
To date, this meeting never took place.
This is true. But you "forgot" to mention the reason. I have agreed to a meeting and also said, that at the moment I'm very busy at work and cannot say when we have time to do this. In the following weeks I have been twice in square, but none of the square mods has been there.
At that time, I still had the belief that every member has the right to state a personal opinion and an efficient discussion to improve forum, to propose suggestion would be appreciated in this community.
This is so hilarious :D Everyone can read the posts and build his own mind.
But when it comes to the possible chance that this could be used as an advantage in forum and certain competitions, this possibility can put a few things into question named integrity and credibility.
This is even more ridicolous. To avoid such thoughts, the directors of any competitions aren't allowed to join. This is a rule we mods have made. It was our own choice.
To cut a long story short, a few square mods discovered that some members of square and forum shared the same IP address.
In plain words they are the SAME person.
In plain words, your conclusion is wrong. Let me help you... there is a website called Google, which can be used to search for everything. A simple check and you would know, it IS possible that 2 or more people get the same IP. The fact you're mentioning this here and now shall tell us what? By the way, very interesting that you obviously know the IP of square visitor and that you're using this knowledge to attack and to blackmail people. Hm, what did you say about integrity and credibility?
There is more that you forgot to mention. ok, happens.. just good I'm here to remind you. You (the square mods) have asked for a meeting. This is true and I already confirmed this. This meeting didn't happen, this also I have confirmed and stated the reason. On Aprill 11, once more the forum mods have agreed to a meeting and asked you to suggest date and time. On April 15, we have sent another pm, asking again about the meeting. Until today, we didn't get an answer.
Maybe you don't see it, but there is a little group which isn't happy about... what? One mod, two mods, all mods? All the other either aren't interested who is mod or say, they are ok. Some members just are bored or tired by the silly attacks.
This topic will be locked for the next 24 hours.
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I read with interest a topic, actually an answer to a note written by Lover in the topic that I partisipate in, "Time for a few changes". And now this new topic is gone and the original topic is locked for comments. What strikes me is that it is a topic that is questioning the moderators of this forum, and that it simply looks as critisism is not tolerated and simply being moderated. Oh my!
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If a topic is against TOS or detrimental to forum or members, then its removed and the author contacted to explain why.
Maybe thats whats happened in the case you are referring.
Nice to see you again Tom. I do hope you join in more.
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I see. Thank you for your explanation. I am happy to be able to bring my 5 cents to the discussions.
I am confused though by the locking of the named topic and the disappearens of the second. A bit too much of silencing if I may say so.
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I wonder why my first thread was locked and why another member´s thread with similar content got deleted 3 times now?!
... any opinion on that fellow forum members?
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I think i can spare my 5 cents too in this topic and ask the mods why they have to lock a whole thread and keep deleting another one with a similar content calling on the TOS, and dont just moderate the exact part of the given post as they usually do.
I'm sure the whole post wasn't against the TOS.
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I read with interest a topic, actually an answer to a note written by Lover in the topic that I partisipate in, "Time for a few changes". And now this new topic is gone and the original topic is locked for comments. What strikes me is that it is a topic that is questioning the moderators of this forum, and that it simply looks as critisism is not tolerated and simply being moderated. Oh my!
A participant in the original thread posted a 'final comment' .. then said their goodbyes to Achat along with a statement that they were going to take the advice of some friends and 'shut the fuck up". Lover replied.. acknowledged the post.. and then closed the topic for a 24 hour period. I know my opinion is only worth 2 cents and not 5 cents like others.. but I take that to mean that no posts regarding the topic are being permitted for 24 hours and after that.. the thread will reopen. lol.
This person who had said their goodbyes and was supposedly going to 'shut the fuck up' (altho it seems that they are only going to take this advice after they are convinced they have the last word).. defiantly started another thread with the EXACT same title as the one that was closed for 24 hours by forum moderators. Not only did they decide they had the right and authority to overrule and "MODERATE" the forum moderators by opening this thread, but they also pulled and posted quotes from it as well. Especially quotes and information that is strictly banned by Achat terms of services. Information and threats to expose another players private data information that this person was entrusted with as a moderator of an affiliated website to this forum..
Such an act in my opinion (again.. only my 2 cents worth) is a despicable act.. and is a threat to everyone who plays this game.. and to anyone who has ever logged into the affiliated site.. it is detrimental to this entire community knowing that their private information is in the hands of someone who lacks the moral fortitude to do the right thing. Such a person not only requires moderation, but their account should be reviewed by Achat Administrators and be banned permanently.
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Hi Jaynie, my free thought is that the topic got hot because it involved criticism of the moderators, not because it is breaking any rules. In the stopped thread one moderator is forcefully defending another for maybe secretly using multiple accounts in this forum. Something that in itself is highly questionable and from my point of view should be checked into. I have difficulty in understanding the high level of defensiveness instead of an open discussion.
Best regards
Tom
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.....this 24 hour ban feels like 30 now ... didnt know that clocks tick differently all over germany , i ll get mine to the shop to get it fixed
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Sorry when the link up there doesnt works,anyone has deleted it or eaten it or killed it or whatever without any explain ;(...
...oh there it is....
http://www.funnyadultgamesplay.com/forum/index.php/topic,2834.msg147695.html#new
seems someone decided it doesnt belong where I wanted it to be
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I will not take side's to any of you
Members vs moderators
moderators or not ( vs ) moderators Members to Members
friends to friends friends to enemies Lover's to x- lover's !
Why I am here and why I defend both opines sides I want to hear it clear and be fair
I already have my own conclusion as to what's going on , that's my own opinion and
there is to many pointing fingers from every on I mean every one !
if you all step back and watch this you will see it , every one is judging to each other or reacting to each other
in a non friendly way ,
Let me clear this
I did not say
'shut the fuck up !
I said STFU !
and that could mean many things ;)
any one can come and go as they want and they can also post
what they are feeling and give there own opine
it is clear to all that something is bothering some, if they are members
they have their right to express themselves..I understand a lot ..
next
This all started wrong the way Ice started the topic to me this was a personnel attack on to the moods , to me he could of
explained details of what bothered him , everything before having his own solution,,
to me it as I see was a another attack on the forum
And let me clear to you all !
I love Achat and the forum !
this is the only place I come and feel comfortable to release my fantasy real or not real
it is up to me ...
no one makes me come or go no one can make me stay or go
post or not post
I will do as I wish I am a member
;) ;D
and for your information the moderators approved linked town and forum together
and some where Moods there to so I think this would be wrong and not very wise you cant say Yes and then NO
and now things go bad say what you said .
I want to now what really it is all this is leading to ..
I dont care they have 2 or 3 or 100 but if it is used for other reasons to gain or hurt others we should look in to it
Changes yes we do need changes lots of them
Removing the mood no non of them
what we need is wise solutions to deal with all this
all contest Achat $ should only be handled by administration
trus for me was lost a long time ago maybe for how I was dragged in here the forum how I was treated
to over all I liked all of you and to note as a fair Mood Lover is and always be fair to How i see him not because of our past because i Know him well when he is mood he is mood and if he is not given the right inf we cant judge him
btw way his away so he cant open it but the others can open it
*** Moderated by Brandybee. Some personal, can be addressed by PM ***
I did not see her name any name's
and this is a bad action on your part
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mmhmm ... Another topic of peoples attacking mods ?
They was nice enough to anwser and explain all in the previous one ( the closed one ) so i find this one useless .
Personally if i was mod , you'll see the difference and notice that the actual ones are good and soft lol
If peoples don't want to be moderated ( this include canceling some posts AND canceling full topics if they are made only to attack peoples and troll a forum ) then don't write things that will obligatory be moderated . In many others forums if you fart out of the bounds , you are moderated and even sometimes have a warning . Achat moderators are very soft compared to another sex game where i play because lesbians are not left on side compared to hétéros .
Oh and remember that mods are humans ( well exept lover who is a black panther ) not some machines , and that they are mods for free . No X-gold ... uuh sorry wrong money . No A$ is given to them for moderating .
So lover and all the mods left , continue the great work :)
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Hi Rukya, ty for your thoughts.
I prefer to call this thread a questioning of the moderation in the said thread rather than attacking the mods. Attacking is a too aggressive word. Moderation should be done according to certain rules, the so called tos, and I'm certain that if there was an attac, it would be deleted.
In the thread you mention, moderation was done, let me call it rough, and from my point of view the rules, the tos, were bent by the moderators to stop critisism of themselves. This is not what I would call soft moderation. Moderation should be done to the best of the community. When moderation is done with personal benefit in mind or from a low moral standard rather than for the good of the users it can be called corruption or if we say it softer, simply poor judgement. Interestingly enough that was what the thread you mention was discussing, and it got hit with meanness.
When it was mentioned that it is very likely that one of the moderators here uses multiple avi's, multiple aliases, the thread was shut down. I agree with Foxxy here above wishing openness from the moderators. The opposite only leads us to believe they have something to hide.
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Good moderators
hear both sides and all keep the peace
they do not let anger burst out flair out and , take sides , talk down , and remove post
they are fair honest , and I only saw it from one maybe 2
the others cant cover up change something just because they feel it
I dont get why a member dont look at what she is doing and keeps instigating to not settle this peacefully
as I see you have a tos on bulling slandering and dictating a another member ..
I see corruption unfairness ..
and why dos this keep happening ,I want to have a look at it now
we do need a lot change I see now !
I wanted fairness honesty and integrity
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Just a short note here explaining that two topics have been put together by the moderators. The original topic, that was locked down is page 1 to 3 to after Lovers answer to Maron. The second topic commenting the first starts with my question about the first topic. From here on, the moderators are regarding both topics as one and have put them together. I am not a moderator, neither was I told "my" thread was going to be added to the first.
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When it was mentioned that it is very likely that one of the moderators here uses multiple avi's, multiple aliases
I don't see where is the problem . If someone want have more than one account he/she have to pay for it so he/she have the right . This give more money for the devs and they need it since most of the lesbian community left . As a proof , they passed from 2 updates per week to one update per week .
Just a short note here explaining that two topics have been put together by the moderators. The original topic, that was locked down is page 1 to 3 to after Lovers answer to Maron. The second topic commenting the first starts with my question about the first topic. From here on, the moderators are regarding both topics as one and have put them together. I am not a moderator, neither was I told "my" thread was going to be added to the first.
Well this is logic , no need to have 2 topics about the same subject :)[/color][/i][/b]
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Hi again Ruyka,
there are many implications for using multiple avis as a moderator. Let's just hypotetically say that you have a contest set up by a moderator with economic winns and the person winning the game happens to be an alias of the moderator. That's what would be called cheating.
Another example would be if you have a conflict of any sorts and the same person came to you twice while using different aliases, secretly taking part of both sides of the conflict. That would be morally wrong. Theese are just two examples to try to highlight what you call the problem.
Tom
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Thank you for your views TomH, however wrong they may be.
The contests here are wide open and transparent.
The sweeps are opened to volunteers. The Square conducts the random draw which is very cleverly programmed into a robot, we fondly call Pachi. Anyone can witness and take part in the draws to see it is done fairly and randomly. The Forum Mods have nothing to do with this programming process.
The pairings are random and the race that is broadcast decides the winners.
You cant be more open and transparent than that and cheating difficult, unless you had bamboo for the Panda and knew how to fix the cars / singers / horses etc...
If you have a better idea or ideas on how to improve the draw and pairings, then let AusWoody, the owner or his Mods know. I'm sure they will tell you what is possible and what is not.
As for other contests, the winner is usually decided by a vote. The Forum Village decide and have the deciding vote. Its there in the topics, go look.
The Forum Moderators have no control over any of the winners.
As for views, everyone is allowed them. This topic being a fine example.
Just to make it clear, I do have multiple avatars that are seen in the game. The Forum Moderators use them.
They are advertised here in forum.
Forum_1 ; Forum_2 ; Forum_3 ; Pythia and Osiris_Forum.
My personal account is Brandybee, which again I dont hide. I dont need A$. I have my own money.
On occasions, as has another Forum Moderator, we have actually paid out prizes from our own account when Achat has been busy with other things so members don't wait too long.
There have also been occasions when a contest has been over subscribed / under subscribed and The Forum Moderators are the first to either drop out or join up.
This is to show support for the organisers and has nothing to do with winning.
The contests are run as fair and as open as we can. But like I said, if you or anyone has any ways to improve the running of them, then please PM us or AusWoody as the random draws take place with the Pachi the Robot in The Square mostly.
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I would like to see a copy of all the post that where removed
send them to me PM please ...
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I have a way to Improve all
and when I have time I will post it
my real life is so hard to get on here some time ....
I am not pleased with what is going on . :'(
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Copy and paste this post before reading as I am sure it’s time here is very limited if the threats are followed thru, and share it with those that didn’t get to see it in the forum.
Before I start let me apologise to all the innocents (and believe me there are some but NOT as many as claim to be) who have been hurt and damaged by this ridiculous fiasco.
Ok I been deeply involved in this SAGA for two months or more and yes it’s my entire fault. If anyone is to blame it’s me I was the one who initially refused to honour a date from the date game. End of story? It should have been but no it was poked prodded kicked bitten and beaten and allowed to fester and rot into one of the nastiest situations I ever seen amongst a group of friends and associates in 22 years of internet chat and cybering.
SHAME on all those who have done that.
Don’t those on the periphery who had to add their own 2 cents or 5 cents think your any better, sitting there laughing and grinning you are the worst kind of people taking pleasure in others pain, dropping comments into the pot to keep it boiling.
I have tried everything I know to defuse this situation, I begged for sanity and calm, asked for private meetings only to be ignored and scorned, I tried to remain friends with all to maintain channels of communication and hard as it has been tried to look at this as impartially as I can, all that did was alienate me from EVERYONE I cared about.
We have all heard of the seven deadly sins,
• PRIDE.
a high or inordinate opinion of one's own dignity, importance, merit, or superiority, whether as cherished in the mind or as displayed in bearing, conduct, etc.
• ENVY.
a feeling of discontent or covetousness with regard to another's advantages, success, possessions, etc.
• WRATH,
strong, stern, or fierce anger; deeply resentful indignation; ire, vengeance or punishment as the consequence of anger.
• GLUTTONY
excessive eating and drinking or other pleasures.(see lust)
• LUST.
intense sexual desire or appetite, uncontrolled or illicit sexual desire or appetite; lecherousness.
• SLOTH
habitual disinclination to exertion; indolence; laziness.
• GREED
excessive or rapacious desire, especially for wealth or possessions.
If you all look deeply into your actions you will see that several of these if not all are the reason you are doing whatever you’re doing.
Seriously are you all so fucked up you allowing this to go to this point? I’m right no I’m right no were right.
Achat has an 18+age limit, that’s to assure we are all ADULTS but apparently there are a lot of very immature people pretending to be adults wandering about. There are also some very young people who are mature beyond their years.
Show me who the fuck has won here?
THERE ARE NO WINNERS JUST A LOT OF LOSERS
For Pities sake make a list of what it has cost you, the community and the people you used to care about?
The list is endless
I came here to have fun, that’s been destroyed now and as I said I blame myself, I also fell deeply in love but that too has gone
Ok that’s my opinion and to say the least I’m very disappointed, I no longer trust anyone, I won’t even room anyone anymore because I sick to death of the bullshit that comes with it, why am I still here? Because there are people care about here still even though they may no longer give a fuck about me, and I made a commitment to run the F1 amongst other things.
The funny thing about all this? Everybody is mostly right, but like any story there are always three sides yours, mine and what really happened. The problem comes from when people exaggerate and outright lie to strengthen their position.
Here are the facts as I know them:-
• I was unhappy about one of my partners in the date game, I approached Tango and discussed it and as a result I withdrew from the contest.
• Brandy (my spouse) suggested that she ask skydancer (a lover) to do a date with me replace my name in the game, I thought that was a good alternative to withdrawing, though I voiced my doubts that it smacked of Favouritism to her spouse but didn’t think it was that big a deal.
• Within hours the directors of the game contacted me and expressed concern that the change would reflect badly on the random draw, and I as owner of the square and the bot decided that it was a valid point (not that brandy’s was a bad solution overall) and again agreed to withdraw and revert the draw to its original with tango substituting for my dates.
• Brandy was quite upset over our decision and after along heated argument where she was outnumbered 4 to1 (unintentionally but my fault again I should have discussed it with her privately) agreed to disagree with our decision but left it stand.
• That should have been an end of it but it wasn’t the egos of all involved got in the way and it continued getting nastier and more vindictive as follows
From this minor misunderstanding has developed a major concern, many of you have blamed Maron for creating this but you are not correct, Maron (and now others) have serious concerns regarding the credibility of the contests being run in the forums based on the fact that several prominent members of forum have repeatedly shown up with the same IP Address, there may be several reasons for that and this isn’t the place for a tutorial on networking suffice to say that these occurrences are too often to be pure coincidence and need to be discussed and explained or all credibility of any contests run thru the Forum has gone. These concerns have been deliberately ignored by those who should be addressing them despite several requests for a private meeting of those concerned to resolve them.
After being informed of this I laughed it off I know these people well and I had faith that it had to be a mistake or some tech glitch easily disproved by a simple sit down chat. NO? For some strange reason the people concerned are prepared to answer the claims, sure Lover dropped into square and found no one in attendance, well yes I did see him log in twice, once we actually spoke and I was told they would meet us IF and WHEN we stopped asking questions in forum. WHAT? No date was set and we had been waiting 2 months.
Are the forum member’s sheep of no account that they cannot raise questions regarding the honesty and impartiality of the mods that monitor and edit our discussions? Have the mods been in positions of power that they are now demi gods demanding that their conduct not be questioned?
Or have they become a tyrannical dictatorship rolling out the tanks to crush any dissent in the masses like the Chinese did in tiananmen square incident of 89.
Many of you know me some well some barely I have been a supporter of the forum and mods since I first arrived here, I have attempted to resolve this situation for two months quietly in the background and been thwarted at every turn by biased and ego driven self-interest, I am sorry that this has come out into the open and the damage it has done and is doing to the great fellowship of achat and the forum. Questions have been asked and whether they are valid or not they need to be answered completely and fully or the mistrust of the populace will continue to grow and the whole community will collapse into anarchy
In my discussions I have been told if I post this I WILL be moderated before the content has been seen? I put my reputation of honesty and truthfulness on the line here, these are the facts as I see them, right or wrong I am not pursuing any private grievance, yes this may cause the flames to explode into an inferno but my entire goal is to see it finished and over. Allowing sanity to return to MY community and put the FUN back into our mutual experience.
What has this cost me? Well the survival of the square is now counted in days, I have been lambasted by many friends on both sides of this situation, and the loss of many of those friends, it will possibly make my time here to come to an end, but better that than have this situation continue and ruin the time spent her.
Copy and paste this post before reading as I am sure it’s time here is very limited if the threats are followed thru, and share it with those that didn’t get to see it in the forum.
AusWoody
Owner and administrator of Achat Square
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Thank you Brandy for explaining the everyday situation of a moderator with multiple forum accounts and handling of the competitions. I'm just a bit concerned since this is not the issue that I was discussing. There is a difference between multiple forum accounts and multiple personal accounts wich leads to completely different implications.
Let me give you a few examples. Let's say it is found out in the square that you as a moderator use three personal accounts. We can call them A, B and C. It can be argued that even in a fair draw your odds to win money, for instance one year achat subscription, in a competition would be multiplied if for instance both A and B participated, even more so if also C participated. Your chances would be bigger than the other participants. Not to talk about the moral dilemma this would bring.
The fact that A and B could have different husbands is not any concern of mine, but if I was in an argument with A, I see a moral issue if B discussed my A problems with me.
I hope you see now that your description of multiple forum accounts is very different to what has been discussed here, ie multiple personal accounts, and the implications for a moderator would be far more serious.
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Ok, This whole thread is directed at me and not the other Forum Moderators, mainly because I do most of the Moderating and I guess it’s time to speak out. I do not have multiple accounts.
I have said this previously and will continue to do so.
This situation has come about because of a meet and greet game.
Here are the facts as I know them:-
• There was a Greet and Meet game in Forum. It is important to note, that this was never advertised as a Square Event and there was an inappropriate date drawn. All it needed was a date swap but instead this option was never offered and caused bad feeling. Tantrums were thrown by the Director and member alike. The member felt he had no option but to withdraw from the game.
• This seemed harsh and being a Forum Moderator I saw there was a better option to resolve the situation. An alternative date was suggested and agreed to replace that persons name in the game. It was a good alternative to withdrawing and ensured that a big poster was in the game and guaranteed reports for the topic. It was also good for the director as he had less dates to carry out. It was discussed with that member and agreed. I then went to work.
• I was not party to this as I was at work. Within hours the directors of the game contacted the member concerned and expressed concern that the change would reflect badly on the random draw, and I as owner of the square and the bot decided that it was a valid point (not that brandy’s was a bad solution overall) and again agreed to withdraw and revert the draw to its original with tango substituting for my dates. Suddenly it was a Square event, presumably because The Directors were Square Mods.
• I returned home from work, to find another tantrum had been thrown by a director and the decision agreed to prior to work had been overturned by Square Moderators who did not have the authority to do so without a discussion at least with a Forum Moderator.
I was seething over that decision as I felt that a member had been bullied into withdrawing, a Director had publically withdrawn from the greet game with no thought to her dates, forum or the game. A Forum Moderator, ie Me, had been undermined by The Square (Forum Moderators would never undermine The Square so such actions were frankly an insult) The decision I had made was actually better for the game and forum but after a long heated argument I was outnumbered 4 to1. I therefore left the decision to stand.
• That should have been an end of it but it wasn’t. It was over as far as I was concerned. I ended up having 4 days of heavy discussion with AusWoody as Head of The Square over the situation. The decision from that resulted in me pulling away from The Square and resigning as a Moderator at The Square. It was best all round and I would return to concentrate on Forum. Another Forum Mod would act as liaison to The Square and we agreed to disagree on the situation again.
• That should have been an end of it again but it wasn’t. Again it was over as far as I was concerned. Egos did get involved and it continued getting nastier and more vindictive and frankly became a vendetta for me and my reputation.
Things began to get nasty and spiteful. Old issues long gone and resolved or so I thought began rearing their ugly heads.
I can hold my own but to my frustration and disbelief, persons were discussing things outside Mod circles and more people had a view on things that frankly did not concern them. And then Lo & behold, this topic suddenly appears and well it speaks for itself really and the persons posting.
During this vendetta, it became apparent that a Moderator in the Square was keeping and storing records of peoples IP’s and had conversations copied. She was using the information gleened in her elevated position as Moderator for her own ends. That’s confidential information of members being kept without due authority.
Then I received a threatening PM from a couple of Moderators at The Square, wanting me to meet a couple of them privately. After the above conduct I had no intentions of doing so. I immediately forwarded it to all The Mods involved. I was not going to be blackmailed!
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“From this minor misunderstanding has developed a major concern, many of you have blamed Maron for creating this but you are not correct, Maron (and now others) have serious concerns regarding the credibility of the contests being run in the forums based on the fact that several prominent members of forum have repeatedly shown up with the same IP Address”
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Minor misunderstanding. It was blown up in to disproportionate levels!
The credibility of the contests in Forum is an afterthought in this matter and is a means to an end, probably in an effort to force me to resign as Forum Moderator. Just so you know, I offered my resignation prior to this topic and it was refused!
The contests are run with integrity and I am disgusted you would think otherwise. I have worked with The Square and you all know I work hard to get everyone involved and enter most of the contests to show support.
I don’t need the money (AusWoody has seen my account) so to what end do you think I would need to stoop so low as to fix draws. Most of the random draws are done by the Robot, under The Square’s supervision and that of any members who attend to partake. So I cant “Fix” that to win.
The Forum Village vote on other contests, so that’s their deciding vote. I cant “Fix” that either but again why would I want to. It defeats everything I work so hard for. I want people in Forum not suspicious of it.
We are always open to ideas to show transparency and fairness in our contests. It’s one of the reasons I have not opened up a new story contest. I am not sure that the current voting is not compromised.
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Lover has tried to meet and stated that he would if the detrimental posts stopped in forum. He has had a very busy schedule though. The other two also agreed if a convenient date was fixed. I was never going to attend. This was a good decision as to the posts as they could continue if necessary after the meeting. Forum is public and this is Mod business. I know that is something The Square has failed to understand completely throughout this situation. The leaks have all come from he Square.
It’s a pity because of it, The Square and Forum will, and have, suffered & I doubt many people will ever volunteer for a Meet & Greet game again for some time to come.
The Forum Mods have kept a dignified silence.
Yes, I did say to AusWoody, I would moderate if I felt his post was against TOS and named people, like always. I also wanted to protect Forum & The Square but you know what … who cares any more.
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I am accused of having more than one account. I am not the people I am being accused of but can say it till I’m blue in the face, I will never change the mind of these people and frankly I don’t care what they think of me. I have not the time nor the patience to play the game in that way.
But let’s play Devil’s advocate - It’s not actually against TOS to have multiple accounts. Achat probably thrives on them.
Let’s face it, it has been a strong rumour certainly since I started that a lot of the girl’s playing in the game are actually guys. Most shemale accounts have their correct sex account too.
If the person’s spouse and lovers are ok with it, What the hell has it got to do with you or any business of The Square or anyone.
So we are back to the Contests. I can’t fix them as explained previously, not that I would want to.
I don’t need the money as explained earlier and I would be a paying customer x 3. So have as much chance of winning and losing as anyone else, oh yes x 3.
It doesn’t make sense, does it? Really?
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Now let’s look at the flip side of the coin.
Now that said, let’s look at the wider issue and the how the IP was obtained.
Only a Moderator could get this information in The Square.
Not only did A moderator store the information but then they – yes more than 1 Square Moderator - took it upon themselves to act on the information and discuss it outside Mod circles.
But more than that, they acted on it further and approached a members spouse to tell him.
That is frankly wrong, sickens me that you could cause such trouble between members and to abuse your position as Moderators in that way.
If you was in employment, you would have been dismissed on the spot for contravening data protection laws.
@ Roxy, the only posts removed in this topic were by the authors themselves, not The Mods.
A new topic was removed after Lover originally locked this topic because it was a PM and was sent to the person directed. They were also acting defiantly to a Forum Mods decision for everyone to have a 24hr break.
The author was fully aware and the reason explained of the moderation.
I am now going to lock this topic. Everyone has had their say that’s involved. Anyone else is too late. You had your chance.
And I'm sure most of Forum is as sick of it as I am !
Achat is fully aware of all this btw. The Forum Mods have bought it to their attention.