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Title: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: sinnnn on June 08, 2010, 02:40:43 PM
I have gotten lots of non-members thanking me for giving them the time of day, because they get ignored by alot of premuim members.  So that got me thinking, should we mingle outside of the room only, or in the room, or not at all?  I don't really care, but it seems other ppl do.  Soooo whats the big deal ppl? Enlighten me.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 08, 2010, 02:59:50 PM
For me it's the individual. I have played with both members and non and the big difference I can see is that the members seem more into it. Maybe it's because they were into it enough to spend cash, but the majority of the lame lines/guys not getting I'm gay/ not realizing that I might be too busy when THEY happen to hail me seem to be the non-members.

I don't ignore people because they are non-members, but many of those I end up ignoring happen to be non-members.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Carli on June 08, 2010, 03:37:42 PM
I've had some very good experiences with non-members, but I agree with you also that the majority of my ignore list is non-member. I would at least like to keep the opportunity to give a non-member a chance. That, and I like showing newbies arouind if they're really nice :D
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: bouli on June 08, 2010, 04:13:19 PM
I agree with the above posters. It all depends on the individual, but the ones with the worst behaviour are the ones with nothing to lose, i.e. the non premium members.
Quite a few of my friends are not premium so I for one sure wouldn't like to be limited in any way, but I understand why you're raising this question.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Dannyello on June 08, 2010, 05:16:51 PM
The question is rhetorical! Response and does not deserve any votes! Bravo , Janine and Carli! 8)
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: sinnnn on June 08, 2010, 05:45:04 PM
Dude its just a question I was curious bout.  I have had some non-members bitch an I notice on some premuim accounts comments that they only want members only.  Heck I have seen non-members do the same, they want premium only.  So I just wanted to know what ppl thought about.  Seriously don't flip out, thats what posting is all about.   ;D
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 08, 2010, 05:56:08 PM
*I* always thought it was because of positions. Two non-premiums are probably going to get bored fast.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: mikki on June 08, 2010, 06:22:50 PM
personally, i find it equal proportions on those who just won't take no for an answer, member or non, by far the majority are men who just keep on hounding you
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: apollo13nut on June 09, 2010, 01:40:06 AM
I agree with the positions comment.....members (or i would assume most, anyway) would have extra positions, and since non-members in a room with a member can use those positions, it's a great way for "newbies" to see the benefits of becoming a member.

However, I also agree with some behavior issues.....my profile says "no could invites", which I get anyway, and ALWAYS non-members.....my profile says for 3some, both parties must ask me, again ignored by non members........violations of etiquette seem to always be non-members, although i am not counting out the language barrier since I am in the USA and there are users all over the world.

But I find that the non-members that follow the rules seem to be better lovers than members (1st class v 3rd class from the days of the Titanic? sorry...anyway), maybe to make up for the lack of membership

And, don't forget membership is required for clothing.....?
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Jazelle on June 09, 2010, 02:32:16 AM
Hi as a relatively new member to achat i will openly admit that had i of not tasted the sweet sweet delight of achat with an existing memeber that was kind enough to show me around the buttons and how it all works along with almost versing me in achat messaging and sexy chat, then i would probably not be here now!  So i feel it important that free and existing members are able to chat.

But i can also, agree that sometimes the number of cold invites both through chat and actual room invites can be so annoying, i understand that non members need to chat to members to learn the joy of achat, but this flooding problem could alienate people too! possibly a members only chat area ? or even a few new chat areas for straight gay lesbian or even groups you could do them as kinda bars, and have VIP areas ( with buyable passes for vip area where a member may invite in a non member ?)  i am not sure of the fix but it does need fixing, and the cold invites could we have a no invites button or a only from friends invite button ? that we can turn on and off that way we will only get invites from people we know or if we allow it!
friends only chat button that block all non friends would be an idea??

All this said i think it is very important that members and non memebers mix, it is almost essential in my opinion, it just needs controlling!

Finally since this is my first post! let me take this oportunity to say i think Achat is one one the best and sexiest things i have ever seen on the web! i wish the developers every success and hope you continue to develope the to its full potential. In my opinion this game has few if any boundaries!

Jazelle
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: bouli on June 09, 2010, 03:34:19 AM
Welcome Jazelle, good to see another member joining the forums.

A little side note to previous posts, something that haunts me is the feeling that some of the ones saying they only want premium members are the ones chasing after gifts. So reading that in someone's comment usually makes me shy away, possibly for the wrong reason.
I agree with the above posts about premium members often being the ones that put more thought, time and passion into this, so I agree that in general I also prefer to join them. But I still want to reiterate that it's all about the person when we get down to it. :)
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 09, 2010, 04:10:28 AM
Welcome Jazelle, I've always enjoyed taking a newbie under my wing and showing them around. It's what motivated the creation of the user made user guide, but I've also found that for me to get to the point of finding out they are a newbie involves chatting. That's just to say that some either do cold invites, or focus on getting in my pants so quick that I don't care to take the time to teach them just how poorly they are acting.

I actually kind of like the idea of lesbian and gay chat sections, though considering how many woman prefer the "bi" label to "homo" it would probably need to be open to both.

The other ideas for premium chat areas, or creating rooms (for specific groups) is a popular one that has been suggested multiple times. As has filters for things like invites.

For instance as a lesbian I would want to filter invites from guys, as would many of the straight men.

As far as filtering chat... after discussion many feel that the possibility of meeting new people is worth more then filtering idiots that can always be ignored.

But in the end we all share our opinions and see which ones the development team agrees with.  :P
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Jazelle on June 09, 2010, 04:11:34 AM
I agree with bouli, but i think there is a massive problem when somtimes o logon and get flooded with chat from friends newbies (and i kinda still am one!) and even cold invites form god only knows who! (i mean if you wanna f**k me at least talk to me first!).

Most of the flooding comes from non members desperate to experience the joys of achat! and i will happily show a newbie around once in a while a member was kind enough to do it for me, and i feel it only right that i and other members do this. but some can be so rude, so ..... well i am sure we have all had it!. So i feel a private members area or group chat area  for small groups of friends, these day i will go into a threesome room with two friends just to chat to avoid the flooding, and of coarse i miss other people i would like to chat to because i am locked on a room!

maybe we could have a private booth where we can chat openly so we all see the chat but we can also see who else is around and invite them to chat or not?

maybe even invite in non members ? but just the ones we wanna invite
that way it would stop the flooding, the flooding is killing me right now and although i understand the issues of fixing it i feel it should be made a priority!

Newbies need love too, but they need to respect other users too!
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 09, 2010, 04:39:14 AM
I have to say though Im glad Sinnnn brought this up as it's really bringing up some interesting ideas. I mean I had always thought of it as a positions thing when people requested Premiums, but Bouli's thought that it was about gifts IS a very valid one. I'm enjoying keeping up with the ideas being exchanged.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: himmi on June 09, 2010, 05:26:04 AM
i dont make a difference between premium and free member and i hate people that write "only premium" in there profile ....
im in achat for nearly 1 year now and when i started there were just 5 poses and it worked too
anyway the key element in achat is writing and imagination ... i still had fun in achat even without entering a room!

i also think some premium members think they are special because they are premium (no you are not) and i ignore them too if they cold invite
and there is no point in ignoring free members only because they are not premium
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Nicoquin on June 09, 2010, 05:38:06 AM
himmi, you just wrote what i wanted to !!!!!!!

thanks ;)
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 09, 2010, 07:00:03 AM
Definitely don't think I'm special... well I do, but not because I'm premium. Sadly I still have to stand by my experiences that premiums seem better behaved as a whole. That's not to say there aren't bad premiums and I've met a great many wonderful non, but rather that there are a great many non who are giving the rest a bad name. 
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: bobbler on June 09, 2010, 03:22:47 PM
We should mingle outside & inside.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: AZNLoverV on June 09, 2010, 08:07:01 PM
All this said i think it is very important that members and non memebers mix, it is almost essential in my opinion, it just needs controlling!

Finally since this is my first post! let me take this oportunity to say i think Achat is one one the best and sexiest things i have ever seen on the web! i wish the developers every success and hope you continue to develope the to its full potential. In my opinion this game has few if any boundaries!

Jazelle

I like the idea of different 'virtual areas' the best.

Here's how I'd organize the areas:
The Bar Room - any free or premium members can meet and hang out here.
Club Platinum -  only premium members can enter
Club Lesbos - for those FF inclined
Club Velvet - for those MM inclined
The Dungeon - for those BDSM/Fetish inclined
The Swingers Club - for those who want 3somes or 4somes

And I'd like to see different backgrounds and even music to differentiate each style of room. 
Even the private rooms in these areas should follow the same kind of themes.

Also what we could do is that you will only show up as being online to people who are in the samevirtual  area as you UNLESS they have a relationship with you.
So if you are in club platinum as a premium member, then free members wouldn't even see you UNLESS you had previously made them a friend, in which case they can message you, and you can meet in a room that they do have access to.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: sinnnn on June 09, 2010, 08:38:50 PM
It almost sound like you are making another Red Light site.  But we have suggested something close to that before.  We all seem to think a little alike on this subject of rooms. Well I voted who cares, as far as I am concern the ignore button is made for all.  I never paid attention to what kind of member annoys me.  So mingle to your hearts content, I refuse to limit anyone from having contact with one another.  But on that note, a vip room woudl be nice, lol.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Jazelle on June 10, 2010, 12:15:27 AM
ok i have given this a lot of tought over the lasy day or so and it does drive me mad with all the cold invites and inane chatter of newbs flooding me when i am chatting to friends! i have gone to  rooms just to chat and ended up offended other friends who think i am welll you know and ignoring them!

This site is a social network of sexy people who enjoy sexy chat, along with the obvious sex side of things (wich is awesome) i think that a general bar style room  with alcoves that groups can chat in just as you would in a pvt room but with the addition of being able to see outside that is to say that we can stay in public from the point of view of seeing who is around. We dont need lots of diffeent flavoured room this would happen anyway the lesbians would sit in a "booth" watching out for thier friends whilst chatting without the interference of everyone else with cold invites and silly chat

Possibly leave only one player in control of the "booth" so that not all can invite to make the room grow so big that it gets out of hand also possibly limt the "booth" in size for maybe up to 6 ish people

there could also be a series of actions performed in the room ?

love to hear what the developers think about this issue as i see that it is the only issue with the game that would really drive me away !

And since i have a lot of living left to do they could have me as a client for a very long time indeed! (the next 50 years or so!). I really couldnt see me ever leaving!

I think that the future is massive for achat! 

good luck and thanks for everything so far!
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 10, 2010, 04:46:40 AM
AZN's ideas work, or anything else that just allows the current tide to be filtered a bit. I too get a bit overwhelmed at times, and have had to ignore (little i as in not respond not big I black list, though that too). So some sort of screening process would be welcome.
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Lover on June 11, 2010, 02:02:00 PM
1. Yes! I can't see any reason why this should not be able.
2. I agree to AZNLoverV idea with a platinum club. Entrance just for premium and the people they invite (maybe they must have a relationship)

Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: sinnnn on June 13, 2010, 11:28:08 PM
i think we should have something just for the members, thats what being a member is all about. We are paying for perks.  But if we have a place just for VIPs should our friends on our list(who might not be members also) be able to enter the area without a invite, until they get removed from the list.  Unless you think that will cause more non-members to try to pimp themselves out to get on a members list? or It just might make them pay for membership, kinda make you go hmmmmmm? :-\
Title: Re: Should Non-Members play with Premuim Members?
Post by: Janine Dee on June 14, 2010, 04:26:22 AM
I dunno, the pimping out to get in MIGHT get worse, but the whole hooker issue is because people are pimping themselves out to pay for memberships. So it almost seems moot.

Heck, those who sold themselves to pay for membership would probably sell their ability to invite.

The problem is that with the unprecedented access AChat allows free users I can't see them allowing us premiums to separate ourselves like that. I wish it would happen, but the fact is I would hide out there a good percentage of the time, and that's precisely why the development team will probably never develop it.

Today's cold inviting creep may be tomorrow's paying member... unlikely, but I figure that's part of the business plan.