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Discussions about AChat => Share your creative ideas => Topic started by: sinnnn on November 17, 2010, 07:44:34 AM
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decided to ask this question. kind of started in another post.
There are lots of lovely ppl here, just have to dig threw the trash to get to them. (yeah I said it). But there are some ppl you think are dicks and they aren't because english or other languages is not their 1st. I had misunderstood someone once and I said sorry once we got everything straighten out. But honestly if you think about it this way, if you had a chance to learn a new language and first words you want to learn is:
You fuck
Sex yes?
You get the picture. Then are they really worth getting to know? They didn't try to learn " Hi how are you? My name is....What is yours?"
Somthing nice to break the ice.
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What the... "bobby is evil"... lol. How should I vote... hmm. :-X :P ;D
I care quite abit about their language, if I can't communicate well with my partner its not worth it. The real fun starts when things get more descriptive or if you mix in some naughty roleplay.
And the language of choice is english in my case, I think I've used swedish two times when rooming so there wouldn't be much fun for me then. I got abit lost when rooming here at Achat with a swedish guy for the first time, my brain was kinda hardwired to use english in this setting. My trail of thought was like this in the beginning "hmm whats the equivalent of cock in swedish... oh yeah its kuk... wait... it sounds so nasty in swedish... a well nasty it is then".
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I was tempted to vote Bobby is evil because that is a sound platform I believe we can all get behind, but I had to vote it depends because there needs to be a flow to the communication. The language barrier can be a big impediment. That's not to say it must be, but that it's one of the easier issues to arise.
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WTF?!?!?!?
you little munchkin :P >:( :P
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One poll I am going pay attention to,... :D
see if bobler wins this...
At first no,...and now,...that would be a criteria I would require. Ability of my partner to relay what they feel in response,..ability to lead me to places beyond the poses...quite frankly I would be looking for peeps to push me there, not stumble though I remember some sexy qualities to imperfect English. (but been too spoiled...way too spoiled)
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As I love to use words for the mood and actions, the language is important. I hate to click the pictures and just look at it. Then I can watch pornos and handle myself. In my mind, AChat is much more and this is a big chance. And I love to do some smalltalk before and after (sometimes between ;))
I have the same experiences as Adera. Sometimes when I'm with a German girl I have to think about the terms - they seem to be strange in a special way as in my head AChat is english.
I use the German translation in the interface as I still am working/testing it. Believe me, it's feeling funny :-\ I'm sure I will use the english version when I'm ready.
To your next question - today it is possible for everyone to use a translator. Even if the results sometimes are silly, it's a sign of caring for your partner/communication. I always laugh if girls are talking to me in english (saying hello, how are you) and they are german. Then I know, they just are picking someone out and not reading the description.
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Adera starts to shake it to "Yolanda Be Cool & DCUP - We No Speak Americano".
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As I first started on Achat i was a hunter, tried to room as much as I could. Had more than 50 friends on my list. But as I progressed through the game, got more experience ànd discovered this was the perfect place to share my passion for stories and fantasies, language became more and more important to me. Although I have no porbelm with switching form english to dutch, i do see english as my primary language here online.
A partner with a good imagination and the feel for language to express herself has become more and more important. It has become a criteria for me. It offers so much more depth to the experience, can create a different setting each time and each personality makes the story different each time. That's the thrill. Not being able to connect with that, does make it hard to at least one side to enjoy the full experience. On the other hand, and I do see that as a plus, I do like to please.Bblowing my partners mind with writing for her, makes me very, very content. So there :D
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2 votes for me ;D
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Ante' hasn't voted yet, and after the naked av' comments you may pick up the third ;D ;D ;D
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that's ok...i haven't voted yet either ;)
and what's wrong with my comment? when her av is naked...it's always facing away :P
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LOL...I was actually the first to vote that Bobby was evil. :P I just hadn't added a comment. :D
Truly though, have had some good experiences with those limited in english...though they were kind enough to use a translator and even teach me a few sayings in their native tongue. However, if very limited in english, I have to pass....I like my words to enhance the experience; otherwise, it's just two avatars dancing on the screen. And like many have said before me, I could just watch good porn, why bother?
AND Bobby, my avatar is DRESSED thank you very much! :P :P :P
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sorry ante...i edited my post
but you know...your avatar spends so much time naked (and on it's back) that i forgot that you have clothes on it now :P ;D :P
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and i think someone wants to experience my evil tongue ;) :D ;D
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@Bobby
Oh my and who could that be?
@Ant
You said it perfectly. Even tho I don't want them to teach me any language for the bedroom. Really my mouth is already foul as it is and I wouldn't use what I learned for Good but for EVIL(MUAHAHAHAHAHA).
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I find the written word to be more stimulating than watching an animated drone I control on screen. Yeah, heathen I know, I should just stick to plain ol chat rooms.
But this adds an extra level. The trouble is a lot of people are content to just watch and control and don't talk.
But getting me into the room ... *sigh* ... i'm so picky.
JT - How are ya?
Prospective Partner - Horny
... pass.
Prospective Partner - You look so sexy.
... pass. Sorry, but it's just an avatar and a look that is shared by half a dozen others at the time.
Is it too much to ask for original and slightly intelligent?
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OMG you called her Ant :D :D :D
was it too much trouble to type another letter ::) :P
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Prospective Partner - You look so sexy.
... pass. Sorry, but it's just an avatar and a look that is shared by half a dozen others at the time.
Is it too much to ask for original and slightly intelligent?
Now see the right answer is "Well thank you, but how could you tell? You can only see my avatar." ;D
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Bite me Bobbycake. :P :P :P
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be sexier if you said it in french... ;)
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It very much depends. Talkative is a must for me. But sometimes, if someone isn't very well versed in English but really makes an effort, and you connect at some level, it can be absolutely wonderful regardless of the language barrier. It can even lead to some humorous situation once in a while, and some laughs is a definite plus IMO. On the other hand, silent people is a definite turnoff, no matter their language...
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Agree Chris. Different languages can bring you to wonderful and humorous situations. Laughing together is always great.
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Indeed, sometimes the funniest things come out when someone directly translated from their own language. And having fun means more than hitting it off in a room, also means being able to laugh to the other and together...
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Sentences turn out quite messed up when one directly translate regular speech sentences in swedish to english.
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This ...
Prospective Partner - You look so sexy.
... pass. Sorry, but it's just an avatar and a look that is shared by half a dozen others at the time.
Is it too much to ask for original and slightly intelligent?
Now see the right answer is "Well thank you, but how could you tell? You can only see my avatar." ;D
Resulted in this.
Different languages can bring you to wonderful and humorous situations.
Which eventually lead to the guy not understanding "No".
:P
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@JennyT: did you get the "Why" when you told him "No" or maybe "please"? Its quite the turnoff (even if I wasn't interested to begin with) to hear people beg. :)
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@Jenny:
I disagree. You already are talking when you come into wonderful and humorous situation. Every person understands the term "no" - if he/she wants to :P
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And if they don't they should not even try or bother to approach someone that speaks English. Although that is not really an excuse. No is similar in most languages. No, no, non, nee, nein, njet, hayir (different, turkish...lol), etc. etc.
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You missed "nej". :P
Its quite different in Japanese though as its "ie".
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Well teach me some french, my last french teacher faild me. :P :P :P :P
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Mademoiselle Sinnnn, on dit "non" si la reponse est negative...
Miss Sinnnn, they say "non"if the answer is negative...
;)
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I've studied some spannish and japanese but I'm not very good in either language.
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My french isn't that good that I couldn't hold a longer converastion, let alone a meeting in a room. Missing the "right" vocabulairy...
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@Adera
Hentai=pervert
Baka=idiot
thats all my japanese :P
@Tight
since I say non to assholes, thx. But how do I say yes to my friends. ;D
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Of course my Onee-Sama would know Hentai.
Onee-Sama=Older Sister, used as a deferential term of respect for a female authority figure. Which usually is the dominant one in the Yuri animes.
Yuri=Girl Love
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Lol, why am I not surprised about the words you two know. I can imagine where Janine got her knowledge. ;) :P
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Just remember, French is not only a language as we're talking about sexual fun ;D
@sinnnn: oui, oui, oui :D
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My record as a Geek Chic is fairly established, and that includes anime, and what got me into anime was learning that the Japanese were so open to girl love they had a full blown category for it. :)
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Oui...
Oui...
Plus fort, plus fort s'il vous plait!!!
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Janine, I don't see anything wrong with beeing abit geeky and liking stuff. The Japanese where very perverse in their history, then they where industrialized and started to adapt western standards. Now they are getting more perverse again, with the idea that things are forbidden which just makes it even worse. :P
I've got a girlfriend that is a real sucker for yaoi (boys love), she just loves the forbidden love idea about it... and seeing two hot guy together. I think she wouldn't like to see another girl take the character she likes. :P
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I'm the same with any male characters getting near my favorite pairings. :P
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Hey i love yaoi and yuri. Hmmm I find it sexy as hell. :-* :-* :-*
And to my friends, "Qui, Qui mon ami"
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"Hm, vous chose sauvage, je baise votre nombril. Mais de l'intérieur." :D
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Gosh Lover that was naughty, good thing Google translate exsists. ;D
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@Lover
ummm k is this translation right?
Hm, you wild thing, I kiss your navel. But from the inside.
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Well teach me some french, my last french teacher faild me. :P :P :P :P
You need a private lesson ? :P
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Hey i love yaoi and yuri. Hmmm I find it sexy as hell. :-* :-* :-*
And to my friends, "Qui, Qui mon ami"
Qui = who ; Oui = yes ;)
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Just remember, French is not only a language as we're talking about sexual fun ;D
@sinnnn: oui, oui, oui :D
Und deutch es ist fur was ? SM sex ? ;D
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@Urban
Yes I think I do need those lessons, but they must be really private because I can never get there in time. ::)
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depend what you need :D. Basics or something more complex.
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Complex of course, duh. lol ;D
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Well, I know french kissing, going french, going greek and russian. But going German? Habe ich noch nie von gehört... Und wenn is Über sex geht, warum SM? (translated: Never heard of that. And when it's about sex, why SM) *a little frustrated of germany being linked to violence often*
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Thats because of the nazis and that people think germans are very strict and organized. Please don't take offence Lover and other Germans, those things are just meant to be abit funny like the jokes about France never winning a war. Think I heard a joke about European contries making some event, then the germans should be the ones organizing, the french the ones cooking... and some more countries.
Well anyway I've seen some images online of some blond girls dressed up in a black leather uniform, a riding crop and some reference to Germany. Still please don't take offence.
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I grew up in holland (am part german) and had to deal with the war a lot. It's common to make jokes about germany and it's history and it just makes me sad sometimes. Maybe I was a bit too touchy about it... I do know it's a joke... 8)
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First to all, I'm not upset. I can laugh about jokes, even if they are about Germans. No problem. It's part of our history that we always seem to be the bad guys. I'm not very interested in this part as I was not part of it. I just can try to work on building another picture of us.
@ Urban:
Not sm. In german "french" is meant a blowjob, respectively girl sucking.
By the way, if we talk about spain it's titfuck and greek is anal - of course only if we use it in a sexual context ;)
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@ Sinnnn
Hm, you wild thing, I kiss your navel. But from the inside.
;D ;D ;D Absolutely correct ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Ummm my Aunt was german. :) Loved her accent. ;D she is the reason why I am a accent groupie. ::)
@Lover
so was that a hint or are you just saying something wicked cute? rotfl
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@Lover
But you can be a bad guy at times right. ;) :P
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@ sinnnn: Freud said "Sometimes a fish is just a fish." But not always ;) Should it be a hint?
You're an accent groupie? Maybe we should ask the A-Team for a voice chat?
@ Adera: Oh yeah, I can be a very bad guy and sometimes I am. I also have a very dark/black humour :D
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@Lover
Oh and I'm having dinner with you. Don't charm me with any dark gentleman stuff, I might cum in my panties if you work me up too much. ;)
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That means you are wearing panties :) Still...
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Actually German is not so much a joke as a code. When it comes to a lifestyle as alternative as BDSM (at least once upon a time) it could be useful to have a phrase that seems innocuous to those not in the know, but is still recognizable to those who are aware.
And as far as German, associating it with violence is like associating BDSM with violence, not anywhere near the whole picture.
While four letters BDSM actually stands for five words (three groupings) Bondage/Domination, Domination/Submission, Sadomasochism.
The mix is determined by those involved. Like right now in the My Fantasy thread what Sinnnn and I are doing qualifies as BDSM, but couldn't be qualified as violence on any scale.
I've always taken the "German" code word more to speak to the idea that the German people seem to value order and structure.
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*for the "Teutons" i was jocking
The worst it's everybody link SM/Fetish ect with german. But it's coming from "Le Divin Marquis de Sade". What do you expected ? It's about sex, so it's french :-P
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Oh, I didn't know about all of its meaning, but then I haven't done much BDSM even if I find it hot and exciting.
I'm more for submitting because I get so insecure about what to do as a domme, afraid to hurt the other or do the wrong things because I might have read them the wrong way. I'm not very good at keeping my cool either... I tend to be quite obvious and well express myself.
When submitting I can really express how I feel (if I'm not told otherwise *pout*). I just love having someone play kinky games with me, it turns me on so much... even if I feel abit greedy at times.
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Actually Urban, De Sade is just where sadism comes from, and he was just f-ed in the head.
BDSM has codes, and values safe conduct. Sure there are those who don't uphold those ideals, but they are recognized as rogues.
And Adera sweetie, the submissive is allowed to be greedy, expected even. The Dominant gets to enjoy control while the submissive gets all that attention and focus, as well as freedom from most responsibility.
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Yay :P. But the few times I've tried beeing abit domme the sub have not expressed what she wanted, I find that quite bothersome... therefore I like to hint if I like something even if I might say "no". :P
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That is the "most" rather then freedom from all part of the responsibility.
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It makes it really good and I do think a dom likes it when your showing appreciation, unless he/she is a sadist.
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It's not just appreciation though. I've also run into submissives who have felt all they had to do was show up. It is a two person (and occasionally more then that) enterprise. The submissive should be able to give some idea of what they like as well as be willing to show distress as well as appreciation. (Some are annoying determined to tough it out. It's terribly sweet that they want to give that to me as a Domme, but I don't want it. ;) I want them enjoying it too.)
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Mmm some idea so the misstress has somewhere to start of is probably good, from there she can try abit to see how the submissive reacts. The real fun is when the dom can start to surprise me with kinky stuff. :P
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Ohhh sweetie, that is setting yourself up to fail. Dominants are not mind readers, and some of the worst sessions I've ever had were when the submissive expected me to be one. It's one thing to give us a long list and let us pick and choose from it and surprise you that way, but to have us just pick stuff... eventually we will pick something you don't like.
Hopefully it would just be something you didn't enjoy rather then actively disliked, but even if we get lucky on those first few picks eventually we'd hit something wrong, and that's no fun for us either. If I just want to spank a female shaped ass I could buy a Real Doll. I want to know the owner of said ass wants it spanked.
What is as (if not more) important then a list of do's is a list of don'ts. Medical or psychological, while medical issues aren't as big of an issue online asthmatics can not wear ball gags, and people with carpal tunnel can not have their wrists bound in all the ways those that don't can, but there are also those mental limits that can take a person past the enjoyable to the truly mentally painful.
(I don't like bloodshed real or virtual.)
Sometimes you won't know it till you cross that threshold, but once you know it's there you need to make sure the Dominant knows about it.
Only sickos want the submissive to actually suffer.
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I wasn't thinking that the dom would that far in one step, sure limitations better be set up or it can turn out quite bad. In my case I like to have my ass played with, as long as the dom knows that and don't rush things he/she can do some surprises as long as its not something radical. But then I wouldn't play with a dom I didn't know and trust.
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Oh Honey, my point is define "radical". You are on the right track with the trust, but the trust builds. You hit it more on the head with the "know" and that also takes time and communication.
Sorry, I think I've mentioned I am a trained Dominant, and I am very passionate when it comes to playing safe, but I'm also just experienced in the realities of it.
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Yes you've mentioned that and I do think your right about this. I'm just thinking about the good times you can have when two people (or more) knows each others limitations. I haven't done any serious BDSM really so I'm not considering all that is needed to make it a good experience for both.