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To be honest I don't really like religion, they're a cause of war and missery. Sure alot of people find solace in it, but the whole religion thing is quite conservative and feels abit out of date. I don't see anything wrong with people believing i god and praying but religions are a whole other thing for me.

When it comes to religion. To each his own, find your peace in whoever you believe in just don't beat anyone upside the head with your bible.  As far as I am concern there is no wrong religion, its whatever gets you close the God.  And its not religion thats bad, its the people that makes it a weapon.  Everyone has a agenda and they like to use religion to push it. 

Doesn't have to be religion. Communist Russia was a atheist nation, they still found plenty of reasons to hate and kill. In many cases to punish those who dared to have their religious beliefs.

It's the people perverting their beliefs, not the beliefs.

It's the people perverting their beliefs, not the beliefs.

not adding further to the discussion.

Believe you are right victorian,..and for the record,...the fiction is so much more interesting than the folklore.

I just don't like people taking advantage of others through religion and yes good ideologies can turn out really bad as well.

I'm not sure I agree with no wrong religions, Scientology is very wrong to me. Believing in lizardmen or whatever that will punnish some and make everything right is just fucked up, thats what I think about all sect like things and sects too.

Everyone has a perspective of our cosmic dance,..but agree, that to victimize people on the basis of belief is despicably.

I'm with Bear, we can talk this to death.  We all agree and on that note which movie would you perfer to watch....

How the Grinch Stole Christmas with Jim Carrey
or the original animation?

Jim Carey's version,...but not my fav....my tradition to watch National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
"Don't forget the rubber sheets and gerbils. "

Hmm I don't really remember either of them.

Its really nice watching Christmas Vacation or The Santa Clause with my family.

I love "A Christmas Carol" (the story of Ebenezer Scrooge), the version with Bill Murray (I think it's just called Scrooge) and
"Christmas Vacation" with Chevy Chase

Love all the Charlie Browns and Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer

Oh going to have to post some christmas comdey soon. lol

The movie you are thinking of Lover is called Scrooged, and it is brilliant.

I've seen "Unstoppable" with Denzel Washington. I like Denzel and he is the right one for this movie.

Denzel is always right and when he is wrg, he is still sooooo right.

Loved Training Day

Just finished watching Skyline, wasn't the greatest but entertaining.  The end was good, I'll admit that.