Developer’s Console update ! WTF ?????

[Bullrun01_fr]

Update January 2024:
Only buys made by established community members count!
To be more precise, the buying user must be at least a level 10 user.
(Filtering out “just registered” users, which can be used to interfere your income)
THE RESULTING DIFFERENCE WAS ALREADY SUBTRACTED FROM YOUR BALANCE.

check you ballance now => mine is now negative !!!
what about you

What the hell is that update ?
How can the rules be changed unilaterally ?

[bree90]

You’re not the only one with a negative balance.
I wrote and asked for explanations also why new retroactive rules cannot be made.
I really think I will abandon the game if their line is this.
instead of improving the game….

[Adelaid]

Hello guys,
My balance is negative too. I hope they will not ask us to send them money back too. They have made a so important change so suddenly… I can understand someone just registered could have bought one or more poses with the money they give for free to start playing, but it’s not creators fault. It’s normal to leave the game or to just use it sometimes if things are like this…such a pity.

[Zuzannah]

I can’t believe that they have done this.

I can understand why, BUT to reduce your balance is Basically Disgusting. It could have been done a hell of lot better.

Like, notify all designers beforehand on what was going to happen and then start this new rule at a stated date without taking your money before it bloody started.

It’s so bloody insidious. Really, It’s theft.

Now most all Designers are going to leave aren’t they ?

Nice going Achat. You really know how to appreciate people who work hard on this. (Sarcasm if you didn’t know).

[Leon_Kennedy]

I think all of the dev’s balance are negative now with the ‘new rule’. is that means we unintentionally in debt to AChat lol? with the new rule in place, creators are looking at nearly a 50% reduction in their dev earnings (at least thats what im getting in my dev console).

i understand that alterations are important part of platform evolution. but i’m not entirely understand the rationale behind the new rule, particularly the notion that 1k free A$ can propel one to lvl 10.

if AChat is inclined to modify established rules, i propose that they, at a very minimum, settle the outstanding balances of dev earning prior to enforcing the new regulations, then resetting the balance to zero and start the new calculation system afterward seems a more reasonable approach.
Why should the new rule retroactively apply to past purchases? It seems unjust to penalize creators because AChat didn’t have the “perfect” system figured out from the get-go.

[Bullrun01_fr]

This is simply against the elementary laws of business.
This update can not just have retroactive effects.

We might all stop designing new clothes or poses.
And they should no be allowed to use our previous work if we quit.

[bree90]

I am sending you my email exchange with support which shows that they don’t even know what they are doing and that they make fun of us considering us idiots:

myself:
I don’t understand this update.
Isn’t the money of a user below level 10 worth it?
if a user lower than 10 then moves up to a higher level, are his purchases subsequently considered good?
you made this rule retroactive and it is not acceptable.
from my balance I am negative by $669 while yesterday I was positive by $731
is it a joke?

support:
Hi,

we are terribly sorry, the correction of the balance was made because the purchases of the registered free users were also counted, which means no real income. This way we have paid more for the designs than it comes to form the real (countable) sales, and the balance can turn even to negative. We can make new payouts when the balance is positive again.

Sorry, we had to correct the data, as we have made payouts without real income base. These payouts were already done, so our correction is not retroactive regarding this part.

myself:
no! I’m sorry.
you had already done the counting of free registered users in the past.
I wrote to you to understand why the number of pieces sold sometimes dropped and you gave me this explanation.

in the notice you say that users who have not reached level 10 are not counted and therefore eliminated.
you have removed me from the count of clothes that the registered free user cannot buy because it goes beyond the A$1000 that is given as a welcome gift from you.

it is clear that they write one thing on the site and respond to another by email.
I leave the considerations to you

[Bullrun01_fr]

“the purchases of the registered free users were also counted, which means no real income”

This is not true ! Maybe no immediate income in real money. But these new designs contribute to make this (old looking) game still attractive, and they contribute to keep gamers spending real money instead of leaving

I don’t think players find girls attractive in the basic uggly green shirt…

[bree90]

as I have already written regarding purchases with the welcome A$1000, it is true that there is no real profit, but the A$ purchased or obtained in the form of a gift is.

[JessiCapri]

What seems like too many years ago, I was a designer on another game. They had two pay scales. One was for purchases made with regular game credits/coins. And another was for promo credits/coin. This means that the designer did not make a profit off the pomotional items sold but they were paid the cost so they did not lose anything.

Designers should not be made to foot the bill for decisions made by AChat.

Sorry AChat, I am usually one of your biggest supporters but you have dropped the ball on this. I sincerely hope that it is a terrible error that will soon be rectified and our designers reimbursed.

[Vaughan]

Seriously?

This is an absolute disgrace.

So member Designers and creators spend a lot of time and creativity, making amazing poses and clothes to keep the game exciting and relevant and frankly giving Achat a much needed time boost so their own designers can concentrate on the Game update… and then they penalise our member creators!!!

Achat, the newcomers gift is YOUR GIFT to promote & encourage new joins. You make a profit when they become premium members. You don’t share that profit out.
You cant give a A$1.000 promotion and then effectively charge your own member designers and creators for it.
That’s a ridiculous state of affairs.

Pay the designer and creators what they deserve.
Every time a New Join or someone under level 10 chooses one of their designs and you do not pay … It is THEFT, plain and simple.

If you don’t want to pay the designers, then don’t allow New Joins access to their designs. Give your own designs away for free, not theirs.

This is shocking.

[bree90]

I completely agree
I understand the reasons behind the game but the way it was implemented is wrong for several reasons.
1. Things have been like this for years and you only realize it now.
2. the decision cannot be retroactive as the designers are not responsible for your mishandling.

the best way to avoid this is not to allow new users to purchase the designers’ “private” items if they do not have the entire sum deriving from the purchases or gifts received. (I remind you that the 1000 welcome cannot be given as a gift).
they preferred to cut with the new rule (certainly done badly for some numbers seen)

Then there is another question that should be clarified. many designers prefer to sell their creations directly to the medium in exchange for A$. How are these credits considered?

Achat, instead of spending time ripping off the creators, might think about updating the game since many competing platforms are much more advanced than this one and this one hasn’t seen any major updates in years.
Achat, as Vaughan rightly points out, survives only our creations.
Achat should better organize its way of managing the game because it is not possible to wait more than 10 months for the publication of an outfit always after a reminder from the creator, as long as this outfit is not lost among the emails that are not read.
Achat, if he cares about the game, must be more attentive to user suggestions.
Achat doesn’t understand that this game is destined to die.
Personally I’ve been having several changes with assistance lately. This latest event is clear demonstration that Achat is only interested in making money with minimal effort.

[bree90]

I would add: we have been told that purchases made with the welcome gift AS are already checked.
This 10th level rule is absolutely made up and baseless

[Bullrun01_fr]

The amount of what AChat want to steal me represents 60% of all my sales (in real money) !!!

[deharte]

I’m speechless and deeply sad.

Guess I won’t be designing anything for a long time. Sadly there are 35 designs already sent over the past few months yet to be published.

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