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      The Copa belongs to a miscellany of lighter verse attributed
      to Virgil (70 – 19 BC) by Servius in the fourth century. His great
      name gave it a kind of charmed passage. It’s closeness to the
      Virgilian letter and extreme remoteness from his spirit have left
      a riddle of authorship. It is so unlike Virgil he may very well have
      written it. The manuscript was brought to the abbey of St Riquier
      (a commune in the Somme) in 814 by Anglibert a secretary to
      Charlemagne but was lost. A copy next appeared in Lombard script
      that once belonged to Cardinal Bembo and the text of the first
      translation below was his.

      Appendix Virgiliana
      Dancing Girl of Syria (The Copa)

      Dancing girl of Syria, her hair caught up with a fillet;
      Very subtle in swaying those quivering flanks of hers
      In time to the castanet’s rattle: half-drunk in the smoky tavern,
      She dances, lacivious, wanton, clashing the rhythm.
      And what’s the use, if you’re tired, of being out in the dust and the heat,
      When you might as well lie still and get drunk on your settle ?
      Here’s tankards and cups and measures and roses and pipes and fiddles,
      And a trellis arbour cool with its shade of reeds,
      And somewhere somebody piping as if it were Pan’s own grotto,
      On a shepherd’s flute, the way they do in the fields.
      And here’s a thin little wine, just poured from a cask that is pitchy,
      And a brook running by with the noise and gurgle of running water.

      There’s even garlands for you, violet wreaths and saffron,
      And golden melilot* twining with crimson roses,
      And lilies plucked where they grow by the virgin river,
      – Achelois* brings them in green willow baskets-
      And little cheeses for you that they dry in baskets of rushes,
      And plums that ripen in the autumn weather,
      And chestnuts, and the cheerful red of apples.
      In brief, here’s Ceres, Love and rowdy Bacchus
      -and red-stained blackberries, and grapes in bunches,
      And hanging from his withe seagreen cucumber.
      And here’s the little god who keeps the arbour,
      Fierce with his sickle and enormous belly.

      Hither, O pilgrim ! See, the little donkey
      Is tired and wistful. Spare the little donkey !
      Did not a goddess love a little donkey ?

      It’s very hot
      Cicadae out in the trees are shrilling, ear-splitting,
      The very lizard is hiding for coolness under his hedge.
      If you have sense you’ll lie still and drench yourself from your wine cup,
      Or maybe you prefer the look of your wine in crystal ?
      Heigh ho, but it’s good to lie here under the vines,
      And bind on your heavy head a garland of roses,
      And reap the scarlet lips of a pretty girl.
      -You be damned, you there with your Puritan eye-brows !
      What thanks will cold ashes give for the sweetness of garlands ?
      Or is it your mind to hang a rose wreath upon your tombstone ?
      Set down the wine and the dice, and perish who thinks of to-morrow !
      -Here’s Death twitching my ear, “Live” says he, “for I’m coming.”
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      * melilot is a sweet clover

      *Achelois was a minor Greek lunar goddess –
      her name means “She who drives away pain.”

      Latin translation and notes Helen Waddell

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        Wallace Stevens received a national book award in 1951
        and spoke of the ‘modern poet’

        ” … we can’t compare modern poetry with the Lady of the Lake
        any more than we can compare Eisenhower with Agamemnon.
        A modern poet is nothing more than a person of the present,
        finding his own thought and feeling in the thought and feeling
        of other people – through his own thought and feeling.
        What he derives from people he returns to people.”

        Wallace Stevens
        The Poems of Our Climate

        I
        Clear water in a brilliant bowl,
        Pink and white carnations. The light
        In the room more like a snowy air,
        Reflecting snow. A newly-fallen snow
        At the end of winter when afternoons return.
        Pink and white carnations – one desires
        So much more than that. The day itself
        Is simplified: a bowl of white,
        Cold, a cold porcelain, low and round,
        With nothing more than the carnations there.

        II
        Say even that this complete simplicity
        Stripped one of all one’s torments, concealed
        The evilly compounded, vital I
        And made it fresh in a world of white,
        A world of clear water, brilliant-edged,
        Still one would want more, one would need more,
        More than a world of white and snowy scents.

        III
        There would still remain the never-resting mind,
        So that one would want to escape, come back
        To what had been so long composed.
        The imperfect is our paradise.
        Note that, in this bitterness, delight,
        Since the imperfect is so hot in us,
        Lies in flawed words and stubborn sounds.

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          Marianne Moore

          Saint Nicholas,

          might I if you can find it, be given
          a chameleon with a tail
          that curls like a watch spring; and vertical
          on the body – including the face – pale
          tiger-stripes, about seven;
          (the melanin in the skin
          having been shaded from the sun by thin
          bars; the spinal dome
          beaded along the ridge
          as if it were platinum).

          If you can find no striped chameleon,
          might I have a dress or suit-
          I guess you have heard of it- of qivuit* ?
          and to wear with it, a taslon shirt, the drip-dry fruit
          of research second to none;
          sewn, I hope, by Excello;
          as for buttons to keep down the collar points, no.
          The shirt could be white-
          and be “worn before six”,
          either in daylight or at night.

          But don’t give me, if I can’t have the dress,
          a trip to Greenland, or grim
          trip to the moon. The moon should come here. Let him
          make the trip down, spread on my dark floor some dim
          marvel, and if a success
          that I stoop to pick up and wear,
          I could ask nothing more. A thing yet more rare
          though, and different,
          would be this: Hans von Marees’
          St. Hubert, kneeling with head bent,

          form erect- in velvet, tense with restraint-
          hand hanging down: the horse, free.
          Not the original, of course. Give me
          a postcard of the scene- huntsman and divinity-
          hunt-mad Hubert startled into a saint
          by a stag with a figure entined.
          But why tell you what you must have divined ?
          Saint Nicholas, O Santa Claus,
          would it not be the most
          prized gift that ever was?

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          *qivuit —

          To wear the arctic fox
          you have to kill it. Wear
          qivuit-the underwool of the arctic ox-
          pulled off it like a sweater;
          your coat is warm; your conscience, better.

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            Thomas Campion (1567-1620)
            I Care Not for These Ladies

            I care not for these ladies,
            That must be wooed and prayed:
            Give me kind Amaryllis,
            The wanton country maid.
            Nature art disdaineth,
            Her beauty is her own.
            Her when we court and kiss,
            She cries, “Forsooth, let go!”
            But when we come where comfort is,
            She never will say no.

            If I love Amaryllis,
            She gives me fruit and flowers:
            But if we love these ladies,
            We must give golden showers.
            Give them gold, that sell love,
            Give me the nut-brown lass,
            Who, when we court and kiss,
            She cries, “Forsooth, let go!”
            But when we come where comfort is,
            She never will say no.

            These ladies must have pillows,
            And beds by strangers wrought;
            Give me a bower of willows,
            Of moss and leaves unbought,
            And fresh Amaryllis,
            With milk and honey fed;
            Who, when we court and kiss,
            She cries, “Forsooth, let go!”
            But when we come where comfort is,
            She never will say no.

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              A Youth in Haste
              by: Callimachus (c. 310-240 B.C.)
              translated by H. W. Tytler

              A Youth, in haste, to Mitylene came,
              And anxious, thus reveal’d his am’rous flame
              To Pittacus the wife; O sacred Sire,
              For two fair nymphs I burn with equal fire,
              One lovely maid in rank and wealth like me,
              But one superior, and of high degree.
              Since both return my love, and each invites
              To celebrate with her the nuptial rites,
              Perplex’d with doubts, for sage advice I come:
              Whom shall I wed? ‘Tis you must fix my doom.
              So spake th’ impatient youth; th’ attentive sage
              Rais’d the support of his declining age,
              An ancient staff; and pointing to the ground
              Where sportive striplings lash’d their tops around
              With eager strokes; let yonder boys, he cry’d,
              Solve the dispute, and your long doubts decide.
              The youth drew nigh, and listen’d with surprize,
              Whilst from the laughing crowd these words arise,
              “Let equal tops with equal tops contend.”
              The boys prevail’d, and soon the contest end.
              The youth departing shun’d the wealthy dame,
              And chose th’ inferior maid to quench his flame.

              Go thou, my friend, obey the sage, and lead
              An equal beauty to thy nuptial bed.

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                Gaius Valerius Catullus (c. 84 BCE – 54BCE)

                Catallus lived intensely, he lived the high life, becoming a member
                of the neoteric, or “new,” poets. Aesthetically radical (though politically
                conservative), they followed an aesthetic programme explicitly opposed
                to the heroic grandeur of epic, favouring instead the small-scale, exquisite
                technique of the Alexandrian poet-scholar Callimachus.

                And he didn’t hold back on delicacy or anything really …
                .
                .
                .
                Written by Catullus
                Translated from the Latin by Michael G. Donkin
                (notes courtesy Brooklynrail)

                Aurelius and Furius: little cocksuckers
                I’ll fuck you up the ass
                and stuff your mouths!
                You who think
                since my poems are delicate I’m less than chaste.
                It’s well known that a poet who is devoted need not
                be upstanding in his verses.
                It’s clear that my lines are charming, witty.
                Then what of it if they’re a tad soft
                a bit shameless at times
                so long as my readers get turned on?
                Mind you I’m not talking about healthy boys, but hairy
                old geezers who can’t get it up
                by standard methods.
                Yet you still think because
                I’ve spoken of a good many kisses
                I’m somehow less than a man?
                Yeah, I’ll fuck you up the ass
                and stuff it in your mouths.



                Catullus referred to his lover, Clodia Metelli as Lesbia
                (not the Sapphic meaning)

                Lesbia, I am mad:
                my brain is entirely warped

                by this project of adoring
                and having you

                and now it flies into fits
                of hatred at the mere thought of your

                doing well, and at the same time
                it can’t help but seek what

                is unimaginable–
                your affection. This it will go on

                hunting for, even if it
                means my total and utter annihilation.



                poor boy

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                  W.B Yeats wrote this sonnet in 1887 when he was 22.
                  It was published in the Irish Monthly in September
                  and was included in a larger piece, The Wanderings of Oisin
                  which he completed the same year; and he was still known
                  as Willie Yeats.

                  She who dwelt among the sycamores
                  W.B. Yeats

                  A little boy outside the sycamore wood
                  Saw on the wood’s edge gleam an ash grey feather;
                  A kid, held by one soft white ear for teather
                  Trotted beside him in a playful mood
                  A little boy inside the sycamore wood.
                  Followed a ringdove’s ash-grey gleam of feather;
                  Noon wrapt the trees in veils of violet weather,
                  And on tip-toe the winds a whispering stood.
                  Deep in the woodland pause they, the six feet,
                  Lapped in the lemon daffodils; a bee
                  In the long grass – four eyes drooping low – a seat
                  Of moss, a maiden weaving. Singeth she
                  “I am love Lady Quietness, my sweet,
                  And on this loom I weave thy destiny”.

                  #194089
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                    Sweet Daddy
                    by Patricia Smith

                    62. You would have been 62.
                    I would have given you a Rooselvelt Road
                    kinda time, an all-night jam in a
                    twine time joint, where you could have
                    taken over the mike
                    and crooned a couple.

                    The place be all blue light
                    and JB air
                    and big-legged women
                    giggling at the way
                    you spit tobacco into the sound system,
                    showing up some dime-store howler
                    with his pink car
                    pulled right up to the door outside.

                    You would have been 62.
                    And the smoke would have bounced
                    right off the top of your head,
                    like good preachin’.
                    I can see you now,
                    twirling those thin hips,
                    growling ’bout if it wasn’t for bad luck
                    you wouldn’t have no luck at all.
                    I said,
                    wasn’t for bad luck,
                    no luck at all.

                    Nobody ever accused you
                    of walking the paradise line.
                    You could suck Luckies
                    and line your mind with rubbing alcohol
                    if that’s what the night called for,
                    but Lord, you could cry foul
                    while B.B. growled Lucille from the jukebox;
                    you could dance like killing roaches
                    and kiss the downsouth ladies
                    on fatback mouths. Ooooweee, they’d say,
                    that sweet man sho’ know how deep my well goes.
                    And I bet you did, daddy,
                    I bet you did.

                    But hey, here’s to just another number.
                    To a man who wrote poems on the back
                    of cocktail napkins and brought them home
                    to his daughter who’d written her rhymes
                    under blankets.
                    Here’s to a strain on the caseload.
                    Here’s to the fat bullet
                    that left its warm chamber
                    to find you.
                    Here’s to the miracles
                    that spilled from your head
                    and melted into the air
                    like jazz.

                    The carpet had to be destroyed.
                    And your collected works
                    on aging, yellowed twists of napkin
                    can’t bring you back.
                    B.B. wail and blue Lucille
                    can’t bring you back.
                    A daughter who grew to write screams
                    can’t bring you back.

                    But a room
                    just like this one,
                    which suddenly seems to fill
                    with the dread odors of whiskey and smoke,
                    can bring you here
                    as close as my breathing.

                    But the moment is hollow.
                    It stinks.
                    It stinks sweet.

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                      Transcendentalism
                      by Lucia Perillo

                      The professor stabbed his chest with his hands curled like forks
                      before coughing up the question
                      that had dogged him since he first read Emerson:
                      Why am I “I”? Like musk oxen we hunkered
                      while his lecture drifted against us like snow.
                      If we could, we would have turned our backs into the wind.

                      I felt bad about his class’s being such a snoozefest, though peaceful too,
                      a quiet little interlude from everyone outside
                      rooting up the corpse of literature
                      for being too Caucasian. There was a simple answer
                      to my own question (how come no one loved me,
                      stomping on the pedals of my little bicycle):

                      I was insufferable. So, too, was Emerson I bet,
                      though I liked If the red slayer think he slays—
                      the professor drew a giant eyeball to depict the Over-soul.
                      Then he read a chapter from his own book:
                      naptime.
                      He didn’t care if our heads tipped forward on their stalks.

                      When spring came, he even threw us a picnic in his yard
                      where dogwood bloomed despite a few last
                      dirty bergs of snow. He was a wounded animal
                      being chased across the tundra by those wolves,
                      the postmodernists. At any moment
                      you expected to see blood come dripping through his clothes.

                      And I am I who never understood his question,
                      though he let me climb to take a seat
                      aboard the wooden scow he’d been building in the shade
                      of thirty-odd years. How I ever rowed it
                      from his yard, into my life—remains a mystery.
                      The work is hard because the eyeball’s heavy, riding in the bow.
                      ~
                      ~

                      Lucia Perillo, “Transcendentalism” from Inseminating the Elephant.
                      Copyright © 2009 by Lucia Perillo.

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                        High Windows
                        by Philip Larkin

                        When I see a couple of kids
                        And guess he’s fucking her and she’s
                        Taking pills or wearing a diaphragm,
                        I know this is paradise

                        Everyone old has dreamed of all their lives—
                        Bonds and gestures pushed to one side
                        Like an outdated combine harvester,
                        And everyone young going down the long slide

                        To happiness, endlessly. I wonder if
                        Anyone looked at me, forty years back,
                        And thought, That’ll be the life;
                        No God any more, or sweating in the dark

                        About hell and that, or having to hide
                        What you think of the priest. He
                        And his lot will all go down the long slide
                        Like free bloody birds. And immediately

                        Rather than words comes the thought of high windows:
                        The sun-comprehending glass,
                        And beyond it, the deep blue air, that shows
                        Nothing, and is nowhere, and is endless.

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                          Hip-Hop Ghazal
                          by Patricia Smith

                          Gotta love us brown girls, munching on fat, swinging blue hips,
                          decked out in shells and splashes, Lawdie, bringing them woo hips.

                          As the jukebox teases, watch my sistas throat the heartbreak,
                          inhaling bassline, cracking backbone and singing thru hips.

                          Like something boneless, we glide silent, seeping ‘tween floorboards,
                          wrapping around the hims, and ooh wee, clinging like glue hips.

                          Engines grinding, rotating, smokin’, gotta pull back some.
                          Natural minds are lost at the mere sight of ringing true hips.

                          Gotta love us girls, just struttin’ down Manhattan streets
                          killing the menfolk with a dose of that stinging view. Hips.

                          Crying ’bout getting old—Patricia, you need to get up off
                          what God gave you. Say a prayer and start slinging. Cue hips.

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                            Bird-Witted
                            Marianne Moore

                            With innocent wide penguin eyes, three
                            large fledgling mockingbirds below
                            the pussy-willow tree,
                            stand in a row,
                            wings touching, feebly solemn,
                            till they see
                            their no longer larger
                            mother bringing
                            something which will partially
                            feed one of them.

                            Toward the high-keyed intermittent squeak
                            of broken carriage springs, made by
                            the three similar, meek-
                            coated bird’s-eye
                            freckled forms she comes; and when
                            from the beak
                            of one, the still living
                            beetle has dropped
                            out, she picks it up and puts
                            it in again.

                            Standing in the shade till they have dressed
                            their thickly filamented, pale
                            pussy-willow-surfaced
                            coats, they spread tail
                            and wings, showing one by one,
                            the modest
                            white stripe lengthwise on the
                            tail and crosswise
                            underneath the wing, and the
                            accordion

                            is closed again. What delightful note
                            with rapid unexpected flute
                            sounds leaping from the throat
                            of the astute
                            grown bird, comes back to one from
                            the remote
                            unenergetic sun
                            lit air before
                            the brood was here ? How harsh
                            the bird’s voice has become.

                            A piebald cat observing them,
                            is slowly creeping toward the trim
                            trio on the tree stem.
                            Unused to him
                            the three make room-uneasy
                            new problem.
                            A dangling foot that missed
                            its grasp, is raised
                            and finds the twig on which it
                            planned to perch. The

                            parent darting down, nerved by what chills
                            the blood, and by hope rewarded –
                            of toil-since nothing fills
                            squeaking unfed
                            mouths, wages deadly combat,
                            and half kills
                            with bayonet beak and
                            cruel wings, the
                            intellectual cautious-
                            ly creeping cat.
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                            First published 1936
                            The precise indenting of the 2nd, 4th, 7th & 8th lines
                            of each stanza cannot be shown because the forum
                            does not allow it, yet.

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                              A Cold Spring
                              Elizabeth Bishop

                              A cold spring:
                              the violet was flawed on the lawn.
                              For two weeks or more the trees hesitated;
                              the little leaves waited,
                              carefully indicating their characteristics.
                              Finally a grave green dust
                              settled over your big and aimless hills.
                              One day, in a chill white blast of sunshine,
                              on the side of one a calf was born.
                              The mother stopped lowing
                              and took a long time eating the after-birth,
                              a wretched flag,
                              but the calf got up promptly
                              and seemed inclined to feel gay.

                              The next day
                              was much warmer.
                              Greenish-white dogwood infiltrated the wood,
                              each petal burned, apparently, by a cigarette-butt;
                              and the blurred redbud stood
                              beside it, motionless, but almost more
                              like movement than any placeable color.
                              Four deer practiced leaping over your fences.
                              The infant oak-leaves swung through the sober oak.
                              Song-sparrows were wound up for the summer,
                              and in the maple the complementary cardinal
                              cracked a whip, and the sleeper awoke,
                              stretching miles of green limbs from the south.
                              In his cap the lilacs whitened,
                              then one day they fell like snow.
                              Now, in the evening,
                              a new moon comes.
                              The hills grow softer. Tufts of long grass show

                              where each cow-flop lies.
                              The bull-frogs are sounding,
                              slack strings plucked by heavy thumbs.
                              Beneath the light, against your white front door,
                              the smallest moths, like Chinese fans,
                              flatten themselves, silver and silver-gilt
                              over pale yellow, orange, or gray.
                              Now, from the thick grass, the fireflies
                              begin to rise:
                              up, then down, then up again:
                              lit on the ascending flight,
                              drifting simultaneously to the same height,
                              –exactly like the bubbles in champagne.
                              –Later on they rise much higher.
                              And your shadowy pastures will be able to offer
                              these particular glowing tributes
                              every evening now throughout the summer.



                              First published 1953 with a dedication to Jane Dewey, Maryland
                              and a quote:-

                              Nothing is so beautiful as Spring – Hopkins (GM)

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                                A famous Auden anecdote came from the time he was a teacher
                                of English to foreign students in the 1930’s when a Japanese
                                student translated the phrase “out of sight, out of mind” to
                                “invisible, insane” – Auden moved to the USA in 1939 and this
                                poem was written in 1941 but not published until December 2021
                                in the New York Review of Books.

                                W.H. Auden
                                a poem

                                We get the Dialectic fairly well,
                                How streams descending turn to trees that climb,
                                That what we are not we shall be in time,
                                Why some unlikes attract, all likes repel.
                                But is it up to creatures or their fate
                                To give the signal when to change a state?

                                Granted that we might possibly be great
                                And even be expected to get well
                                How can we know it is required by fate
                                As truths are forced on poets by a rhyme?
                                Ought we to rush upon our lives pell-mell?
                                Things have to happen at the proper time

                                And no two lives are keeping the same time,
                                As we grow old our years accelerate,
                                The pace of processes inside each cell
                                Alters profoundly when we feel unwell,
                                The motions of our protoplasmic slime
                                Can modify our whole idea of fate.

                                Nothing is unconditional but fate.
                                To grumble at it is a waste of time,
                                To fight it, the unpardonable crime.
                                Our hopes and fears must not grow out of date,
                                No region can include itself as well,
                                To judge our sentence is to live in hell.

                                Suppose it should turn out, though, that our bell
                                Has been in fact already rung by fate?
                                A calm demeanor is all very well
                                Provided we were listening at the time.
                                We have a shrewd suspicion we are late,
                                Our look of rapt attention just a mime,

                                That we have really come to like our grime,
                                And do not care, so far as one can tell,
                                For whom or for how long we are to wait.
                                Whatever we obey becomes our fate,
                                What snares the pretty little birds is time,
                                That what we are, we only are too well.

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                                  Serhyi Zhadan is one of Ukraine’s best known poets and novelists,
                                  who gathers crowds of thousands of people at his book launches and events.

                                  [So I’ll talk about it]
                                  by Serhiy Zhadan

                                  So I’ll talk about it:
                                  about the green eye of a demon in the colorful sky.
                                  An eye that watches from the sidelines of a child’s sleep.
                                  The eye of a misfit whose excitement replaces fear.
                                  Everything started with music,
                                  with scars left by songs
                                  heard at fall weddings with other kids my age.
                                  The adults who made music.
                                  Adulthood defined by this—the ability to play music.
                                  As if some new note, responsible for happiness,
                                  appears in the voice,
                                  as if this knack is innate in men:
                                  to be both hunter and singer.
                                  Music is the caramel breath of women,
                                  tobacco-scented hair of men who gloomily
                                  prepare for a knife-fight with the demon
                                  who has just crashed the wedding.
                                  Music beyond the cemetery wall.
                                  Flowers that grow from women’s pockets,
                                  schoolchildren who peek into the chambers of death.
                                  The most beaten paths lead to the cemetery and water.
                                  You hide only the most precious things in the soil—
                                  the weapon that ripens with wrath,
                                  porcelain hearts of parents that will chime
                                  like the songs of a school choir.
                                  I’ll talk about it—
                                  about the wind instruments of anxiety,
                                  about the wedding ceremony as memorable
                                  as entering Jerusalem.
                                  Set the broken psalmic rhythm of rain
                                  beneath your heart.
                                  Men that dance the way they quench
                                  steppe-fire with their boots.
                                  Women that hold onto their men in dance
                                  like they don’t want to let them go to war.
                                  Eastern Ukraine, the end of the second millennium.
                                  The world is brimming with music and fire.
                                  In the darkness flying fish and singing animals give voice.
                                  In the meantime, almost everyone who got married then has died.
                                  In the meantime, the parents of people my age have died.
                                  In the meantime, most heroes have died.
                                  The sky unfolds, as bitter as it is in Gogol’s novellas.
                                  Echoing, the singing of people who gather the harvest.
                                  Echoing, the music of those who cart stones from the field.
                                  Echoing, it doesn’t stop.

                                  translated by John Hennessy and Ostap Kin

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