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[Lover]

Trek,

I said there is no correaltion betwenn being a nice guy and romantic/passion/ecstasy. This is my opinion. Everyone has (or can have) a romatic core, a passionate one or a core made of stone, lol… he can be a nice guy, a fellow, an asshole, a criminal, a cheat….

You defined your idea of being a nice guy, that's good. Cause we have to make sure to talk about the same thing…just  words very often don't really say much because everyone of us has his own idea about a term.

[Trekmanalpha]

Ok, I get ya Lover. Got confused there for a bit…

[kittenlepurr]

Well the thing is that some loose interest when you tell them you're a tgirl, it's just the way it is.

It's their loss Adera. You are a beautiful person. -cuddles-

[West69]

…………..So, for all those who hate me for bringing this up, Good Bye. I'm done here. Nothing here for me anyway, its not fun anymore. I wish you all well.

I am glad you have continued posting, despite the above, which is I assume was a passionate response on a bad day. From your subsequent posts you can see that nobody “hates” you for having a strong, but potentially narrow opinion on various issues. I won't detail the specific areas where you and I agree or disagree, Some of them are semantic nuance.

I will just say that I am glad that you continue to post, share your opinions, and help generate substantive discussion. More importantly, however you choose to treat your partners, have fun on here. It is truly a GAME, even though others may sometimes misinterpret it as a microcosm of RL. :

[Janine Dee]

I do feel the need to speak up on one point.

As long as all associated parties are consenting adults the idea that they should “seek help” for their fantasies seems a dangerous one.

It wasn't until the 70's that homosexuality got taken off the list of mental disorders, but even today there are many who think that we are in fact mentally damaged.

Heck, on this very Forum when I explained to one guy that I don't have sex with men he said “Who's fault is that?” As if the fact I don't want a flesh and blood penis inside me was wrong somehow, and there was someone to blame for turning me off it.

So my take on it is that as long as everyone is a consenting adult (even if they are playing younger) then it's no one's business but theirs.

[Bear]

Consenting adults is the key phrase here… under the TOS child pornography is discouraged…  how that relates to consentual fantasies is a difficult matter to percieve. A fantasy of 2 underage lovers discovering their sexuality is  entiely different than an old guy seeking his fantasy of taking a 12 year old girl.

The other is a dnagerous predatory practice… and quite frankly a type of personality to entice younger player naive enough to unwittingly be beguiled into releasing personal information whish may lead to more drastic intrusions.

[Brandybee]

I'm with you there ,  consenting adults …  you make your own rules …  anything to do with paedophilia  however is plain wrong, against the law &  the rules governing  here . I will, and have challenged such behaviour on here and on profiles …  and will probably continue to do so  😮

[Janine Dee]

For the sake of clarification paedophilia involves an actual child. Ageplay will involve consenting adults playing underage.

For my personal stake I lapse into that “dungeon monitor” mentality. As long as the consenting adult rule is followed, and there is no  risk of unintentional injury I will not let myself judge.

[Lover]

I would like to change the point of view. In RL, if two adults play old and young people… it's not somehting what i like but can accept it – as long as both agree and as long as it stays roleplay or some kind of fantasy.

In AChat we have to think about… we don't know enough about the other person. I believe here are more younger people (teens) which act older… this is the real danger i see.
I know, young people of today are further in their development then we have been when we were 20… and our parents have been 40, 50, 60 years ago… but at least they still are non-adults. They are seeking for they orientation, for love, for finding their own way..
If they meet people who like to rp with young people… I don't wanna think about the possible consequences.

[hentaiboy69]

Your point of you is absolutely right, Lover…..we can't be sure who is on the other side of the screen and our action (even if we done them whit the best intention of this world) can ruin a life or maybe more…..(drastic, but it can happend!)

a solution!? i dunno which one it can be, just try to understand who is in front of you by his/her words, that's all we can do in a chat where you can't see your partner face.

[Janine Dee]

Of course, I just felt I needed to stand up for consenting adults to do as consenting adults choose to. When minors get involved that rule doesn't apply.

But no, I don't know the solution either.

[Brandybee]

In the UK,    Paedophilia is the condition of being sexualy attracted to children.  A paedophile is a person who is sexually attracted to  children. A child is defined as someone under 18 yrs old.

(However  in the UK, the consenting age for sex is 16yrs,  and 16 and 17yrs old can get married with the consent of their parents.)

Therefore ,  Children are involved  in paedophile behaviour but not ,necesarily an actual child  parse, an example of this could be indecent images of children and accompanying literature.  Advertising the fact or having  a picture of a child  on their profiles could constitute a breach in the law here  in the UK  and I 'm sure would breach the governing rules here on Achat.

I therefore do not wish the reputation of this site to be bought into question,Or  for it to be threatened by law enforcement agencies  for  someone's  inappropriate behaviour.  I think it is our duty as responsible members to challenge  such behaviour firstly and report it to  the Mods or Achat if the offending wording / pics are not removed.

Although I think age play if under 18yrs in a room here is wrong,  if it is done privately, it would be difficult to curb. It is the blatant advertising on profiles that I will and have challenged. In my eyes, that is not being judgemental, it's safeguarding children and the future reputation of the site which we all enjoy.

Activity involving adults is completely different and although on occasions I may not understand it, I would never force or try to force my views on anyone.  Live and let live  as they say

Phew that was a bit deep,  back to the AB&G I think …. Another round of drinks I think …  

[Lydiarose]

are we not all roleplaying once we come on to Achat..I love to roleplay but will not play
under the age of 16..have be asked to play young girls but will not do it…
As Brandy has said the consenting age is 16 here in the uk…Of all the guys I have meet on here
over the last 7 months you could count on 1 hands all the good guys..   

[Rukya]

(However  in the UK, the consenting age for sex is 16yrs,  and 16 and 17yrs old can get married with the consent of their parents.)

In france , there is this paradox too . The consenting age for sex is 16 old too and 16 / 17 old can be maried too with the consent of their parents . But a 18 and more old can be arested if he/she have sex with a 16 /17 old

[hentaiboy69]

Mmmmh, dunno if remember well about italian law…..

anyway, as in UK and France, the consenting age for sex is 14 , but it's a little complex to explain with my not so good english, so i had translate with google what i had found

In Italy the age of consent is set at 14 years. The minimum age to have validly of their sexual freedom requires special attention, since it is necessary to assess whether the subject is:

less than 13 years: consensus can not be regarded as valid, irrespective of the age of the author of the facts. If the child is less than 10 years and apply the aggravating circumstance referred to in Article 609-ter, second paragraph, of the Penal Code;

between 13 and 14 years old is considered to be validly given consent only if sexual acts are committed by a minor, as long as the age difference between the two parties does not exceed three years;

between 14 and 16 years old is considered to be validly given consent, unless the offender is the ascendant, parent, adoptive, or his partner, guardian or living with the child, or the child has been entrusted to the reasons of care, education, instruction, supervision or custody;

between 16 and 18 years is considered to be validly given consent, except that sexual acts are performed by the Ascendant, the parent, adoptive, or his partner, or guardian who abuses the powers associated with its location.

hope it's clear

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