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Al Capone

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Hehe      Don't shoot, don't shoot!

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Billie Holiday – All of me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P0hG3sD0-E

yayyyyyyyy congrats on 2500 Maron 

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The Beatles – The Fool On The Hill

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXa0MAfOsoU

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Well, I am a Great British Tommy after all!  :-*

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Reginald Perrin

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Special AKA – Nelson Mandela

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3NJwyzFlTE

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Here's one for all the English players

Peace

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I think if you look closely, Fixx, you'll spot that that scooter is emblazoned with a Union Jack, not a St George's Cross…   

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The Jesus & Mary Chain – Surfin' USA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb4OJ4EQajk

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Polygon Window – Surfing On Sine Waves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4gWpBN0vKI

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Poker is a betting game, by definition. You make bets. You win, or lose, etc.  What you happen to be betting with makes no difference, you are still betting.

Value does not have to be just monetary. Whether something has value or not mostly depends on whether the thing in question is scarce or not. The scarcer the thing is, the more highly we tend to value it. This applies to poker chips as it does to anything else. If we have a more or less limitless supply of poker chips, then we don't tend to value them very highly. If, on the other hand, the supply is limited, we will tend to value them much more. (Irrespective of whether they represent 'play' money or 'real' money.)

All I am trying to say is that poker works better as a game – and, for me, it's more fun because of that – when the people playing it actually value what they're betting with. So, for example, lets say you have red poker rooms and green poker rooms. The red poker rooms are exactly like what we have now in achat poker in every way. You lose your chips, you get some more, you play as long as you feel like playing, etc etc. In the green rooms on the other hand, you get 5000 chips, and that's it. Once they are gone, they are gone. Suddenly, people value those chips a bit more highly, and so they play accordingly. You can of course eventually get another 5000 if you lose, and start again, but only after a certain time period has elapsed, e.g. once in 24 hours.

The red tables are still there just the same, and everyone can play on them just the same. Everyone can play on the green tables too – but only as long as they have chips in front of them…

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The point I was trying to make, Zuzannah, is that when people are playing poker with 'play' money, and the supply of chips available to each player is essentially without limit, then the chips effectively have no value, and there is no real incentive not to lose them. This means that the way people play, and hence the game, is fundamentally different with 'play' money vis-a-vis with 'real' money.  (Although, as described in my previous post, there are some fairly simple ways that 'play money' poker can be 'incentivised', basically by limiting the supply of chips in one way or another.)

I'm not trying to be all super-serious and a killjoy, I know that poker on achat is just for fun; I just personally find the game a lot more fun when it's played properly; and when there's very little incentive of any kind for players not to lose their chips (because they will just get more any time they do) , it's pretty much impossible for that to happen.

(Nb. what you describe as a solution sort of happens in real life poker. It's called limit poker – as opposed to no-limit poker – the key difference being, however, that it isn't one player's choice about how much to bet each round, but rather a betting structure that applies to every player in the game. There's also a half-way house between the two, which is pot-limit poker. But that's all getting a bit too detailed as far as achat poker is concerned… )

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Charlie Byrd

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I'm not suggesting to get rid of the poker game as it is now, Roxxy, just that there could also be tables where there is some incentive not to lose all your chips in 3 hands, or whatever…    It doesn't have to be either/or. 

The social aspect is a separate issue, i'm just talking about the poker game itself.

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