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Oh ok, that is what I hade before and works fine.  I was trying the link at the start of this thread thinking it was a beta of something new. 

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I tried to test this thing.  Got it installed and running.  But tells me on log in that it's not up to date and to restart it to auto update.  But it never does.  Have done a clean install twice now and it still wont up date. 

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*Slaps forehead and walks off.*

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I agree Ily, on both points.  But as you said they will probably not remove it for gift$ do to profits for the game.  Greed will win out every time. 

Though they would still have to buy gift$ with money, so that would still put money into the game.  And those who scam guys into gifting A$ for pictures and videos would then have to pay for their own premium.  So that would bring more money in as well.  As well as cutting down on a great deal of scams on AChat. 

These all seem like good things for both players, and the game gods.  Players deal with less scamming, and the game gods still make extra money.

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Yes Tomi85 that can happen sadly.  Sorry to hear you had some troubles. 

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You have a point HisGirlOnly.  But it could be said at the same time that it should not be up to the guys to pay the premium fees of the girls and shemales.  All the guys have to pay for their own premiums, not really fair that they have to pay for the girls and shemales too.  This is one big thing that leads to all those girls begging and demanding gifts in the game.  Making others pay for their premiums. 

And also leads to so many women and shemales profiles with gift this, gift that, gift gift gift all over their profiles.  As well as selling pictures and videos, and all the fraud that leads to.

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Very good idea ily1990.  In fact Gift$ should be the only way to gift people.  Take gifting A$ completely out of the game.  Gifting Gift$ would still bring in extra money for the game like A$ does, and would stop all the sneaky little things people do with gifting A$. 

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I think if you go jamming all the group ideas into one topic it will get very confusing to know who is talking about what groups and ideas. Thoughts will go all over the place and many topics will be easy to get looked over. Sounds like a mess to me. Like right now it looks like this topic is all about bigger groups.

As for bigger groups it could be fun, but before making them bigger it would be nice to get groups fun for all types first. Straight women are still passed over for group fun. As it is right now and has been a long while now, straight women are forced to be bi, we’re not all bi sorry. And if you simply add straight women actions into group you will still have a bunch of bi actions to get forced into. Would straight men still do MMF if they had to deal with a surprise cock in the mouth or ass? Probably not lol :P.

And guys always want to do MFF, and of course they do. They get two women all to themselves, get to dom them all they want, and enjoy them as the woman get it on with each other. But again would they want to do it if they had to deal with a cock in the mouth or ass every time they turn around? NOPE! lmao

So let’s get fair play and fun groups for all types before we worry about adding more people to them.

Oh and with more people remember how the game is set up as well. One person leaves and you lose the whole group. Hard enough with three people, add more people that adds more chances for one person to leave and you have to start all over again.

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I think it’s a great idea jasonn8. And just look at all the people who enjoy groups. Now if only there were a group choice for straight women, and who are not subs.

😉 Oh well. . . . . . . .

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Well I guess that's something.  Looks like straight women will have to be left out of group fun.  Seems the game is highly targeted at straight men and pleasing them.  Such a shame.  But luckily someone clued me in on another game kind of like this but better graphics, more to do, and more for the straight woman.  So will be giving that a try.

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I am straight, but I agree – this should of course be possible for those who wish to. I can see one problem though: There's a lot of people who speaks rather poorly English or non at all here. You'll never know what to expect then..? It has to be an “opt out” option as well. Don't take this the wrong way, but for me it would kinda ruin it if I got a “surprise” up my ass… I guess the labguage thing is another topic though, so thumbs up from me.

even if I'm definitively straight, I say yes just for the fun of other people (but don't EVER make me involved ;p )

I have got to chime in here.  I love how the guys act about this and want an opt out if there where bi actions in the MMF.  Yet in the MFF the females don't get an opt out, we get FORCED!  Where the heck is the fairness there??  Guess what, as a straight female it kills the mood to get a surprise pussy in the mouth.  Or any other such bi action not wanted.  I say if the women HAVE to get stuck with it, the guys should too . 

And don't say just tell them you don't want it, as they always say the same thing, “Have you ever tried it?  How do you know you don't like it then?  Just relax and enjoy.”  I Would love a chance to hit them right back with those same words as a guy gets a surprise cock up the ass or down the throat!  See how they like it!

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I agree putedocile.  Being why it would be great to get a bi male MMF pose.  And a straight female MFF pose.  But we need poses to use in them.  Does not seem like many are interested in either though.  I guess there are many more bi and sub woman then straight.  And more straight men who like always being in control of the women to make them do as they please.

Maybe one day we can even out the playing field for straight women and bi men, maybe one day. 

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Does not seem like anyone else is interested in this one now.  No one else out there have any thoughts on this pose? 

Another action for this one could be the woman steps forward some between the two guys, turns side ways, and one guy licks her ass while the other licks her bits in front.  Have her holding their heads too.   Kind of like the new one for MFF.

Still need thoughts on the straight womens MFF pose.  Let's think of fun ways to use those men ladies. 

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I like hukk's posts, about the only thing on here that makes me laugh.  Don't make hukk stop being hukk lol. 

I do think the moderators do just fine.  They have to stay at all times in the middle, and keep things even.  That is no easy thing to do at all, if it can even truly be done at times.  So from what you moderators are doing from what I have seen your doing fine. 

I am a little shocked to hear you don't get any throw backs by working as moderators here.  I would think they would at least give you a discount on premium for the game.  Something, you all work hard enough to earn it.

And again, please don't restrict hukk, I need my daily dose of hukk haha's.  ~.^

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((Quote from Brandy:So it concerns me a bit, when members say they are not posting, they have learnt their lesson. Is that because there was a heated discussion?  Too me that is a successful post or topic and has raised their passions to take up their right to free speech.  And I commend you.

Or is it because you are not happy with how it was moderated?  Then tell me so I can improve and give you what you actually want in Forum.  This is your Forum not mine. End quote))

This is a bit hard to answer while learning things still but wanted to try.  For me it is not completely for one thing, it comes from a mix of things that make one big mess.  If that makes any sense at all.  It was a build up of many things bad, and nothing good.

So like with your statement on Cola and people who drink it.  Say someone posts something short asking about Cola.  Like should Cola be “what ever”.  Then the next 2 or 3 people that reply go into things that really had nothing to do with the question.  But rather into off stuff like, “well cans that hold pop are free to hold what ever they want”  and so on.  And do it in a way that has nothing to do with the question, but just post in a way to tease the person who asked the question.

Or say “the letter C can do anything it wants” and so on.  Again nothing to do with the question, just a way to post and do it in a way to tease the person asking the question.  To me that is not a heated debate, just an off sides way to post only to poke at the first poster.

Now after those first few people post simply to poke at the first person and not help with the question at all.  The person who asked the question posts to defend against the poking.  Only to get in trouble for doing so, and nothing really being said or pointed out to the ones who simply posted to poke fun.

So all of that would be many things.  1: There was never a debate or an answer from others about the real question.  Only ways to post to simply poke fun of the poster.  2: The moderating of it was focused on one point, the poster defending themselves in the wrong way.  But not really anything about the ones who posted simply to poke fun.  3:None of the posts where ever to answer the question in the first place, so posting at all turned out to be totally pointless.

Now for all that it was no one persons fault, not a fault of a heated debate, or moderating.  But a bunch of little things leading to a big mess.  I hope everyone can follow this.  Trying to explain as easy as I can.

So of course after such a thing happens, and to someone still pretty new to forums and the like.  The person is likely not to want anything to do with such a mess.  Being proven that one simple thing, can be turned upside down and lead to nothing but insults for ever posting in the first place.  Rather they be insults directed at them, or in cleaver little side ways to not break rules yet still make fun of the poster.  I don't think anyone would want to purposely put themselves in that position again.  And would choose to avoid it.

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